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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #225 on: February 16, 2009, 08:58:37 PM »
If that were me, I'd roll the cheese wheels at the band just to watch them scatter.

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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #226 on: February 16, 2009, 09:01:42 PM »
My kids have a teacher named Mrs Shrek, I kid you not, just thought I'd share. Shes the health/gym teacher  :sucks

And my kids have an ogre for a mother, poor dears :lol:


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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #227 on: February 16, 2009, 09:07:05 PM »
My kids have a teacher named Mrs Shrek, I kid you not, just thought I'd share. Shes the health/gym teacher  :sucks

And my kids have an ogre for a mother, poor dears :lol:
There is no way you could convince me of that Mrs Shrek  :hugs: but still thats funny  :lol:

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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #228 on: February 16, 2009, 09:08:18 PM »
If that were me, I'd roll the cheese wheels at the band just to watch them scatter.
remind me to always be on the same team as you, and not the opposing team :ascared
I'd make sure you'd be safe Mrs Shrek, teammate or not.  :kuss:

I appreciate it, and I'm sure you would :kuss:

...don't take this the wrong way, but if we ever happened to be in Switzerland and I saw you with a big cheese in your hand on a steep hill with a bunch of bell ringers at the bottom, I'd probably still stand a bit behind and slightly up hill from you... :funny: (actually to be honest I'd probably be a couple of miles further down the road hiding behind Phil at the pitstop) :luvu:

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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #229 on: February 16, 2009, 09:11:11 PM »
If that were me, I'd roll the cheese wheels at the band just to watch them scatter.
remind me to always be on the same team as you, and not the opposing team :ascared
I'd make sure you'd be safe Mrs Shrek, teammate or not.  :kuss:

I appreciate it, and I'm sure you would :kuss:

...don't take this the wrong way, but if we ever happened to be in Switzerland and I saw you with a big cheese in your hand on a steep hill with a bunch of bell ringers at the bottom, I'd probably still stand a bit behind and slightly up hill from you... :funny: (actually to be honest I'd probably be a couple of miles further down the road hiding behind Phil at the pitstop) :luvu:

I'll hide with you. :funny:


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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #230 on: February 16, 2009, 09:17:36 PM »
Having watched the episode again, I'm sure I would roll two cheese wheels at the band.  :funny: :funny: :funny:
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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #231 on: February 16, 2009, 09:54:31 PM »
I wonder if anyone tried to slide down the hill on the cheese like a sled? :nut:
oh and the hill was covered in poop! imagine that?

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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #232 on: February 16, 2009, 11:00:14 PM »
Now we all know our cheese has poopy on it! :funny:

Thank goodness i hate cheese and don't eat them! :sucks

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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #233 on: February 16, 2009, 11:33:27 PM »
Hope the budget cuts didn't mean the cheese was later transported to the pitstop for their dinner that night :groan:

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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #234 on: February 16, 2009, 11:43:05 PM »
Hope the budget cuts didn't mean the cheese was later transported to the pitstop for their dinner that night :groan:

 :funny: Thank God Preston was eliminated. He swore never to eat cheese ever again, he could have been hungry the whole night. :funny:


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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #235 on: February 17, 2009, 12:00:40 AM »
 :lol: Ken!  :funny: I watched it 3 times in a row!...I know!  :lol: And loved it best season opener ever for me with a few others close behind!
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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #236 on: February 17, 2009, 01:05:02 AM »
The velocity of the rolling cheese can be estimated using conservation of energy.  The change in elevation from the cheese shack at 718 meters to the bottom of the hill at 653 meters is 65 meters.  All of the potential energy converts to kinetic energy of motion.  The relationship is:

(3/4) * mass * velocity^2 = mass * gravitational acceleration * change of elevation

Solving for velocity:

velocity =  sqrt(1.3333 * gravitational acceleration * change of elevation)

Using 9.8 meters/sec^2 for the gravity we get a speed of 29 meters/sec or 65 mph!   :lol:
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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #237 on: February 17, 2009, 01:12:01 AM »
 :ascared That's enough to knock you off your feet. Guess they didn't have any manned cameras located directly at the bottom of the hill, and I hope the clue bearer took shelter behind the cabin each time a missile was launched....

Makes you wonder why there wasn't some form of a penalty for anyone who let go of their cheese, just for safety reasons...

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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #238 on: February 17, 2009, 01:14:19 AM »
Tsk-tsk, Chateau! Half-m-v-squared! (Oh God I'm turning into Apskip.) :lol:

That gives us 35.7ms^-1 (assuming no friction). Yikes!

Each cheese wheel weighs 22.7kg, which translates to 811kgms^-1 of momentum, which would send someone like Amanda (who says she weighs 45.6kg) flying at 11.9ms^-1 or 26.6mph in an inelastic collision... blahblah
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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #239 on: February 17, 2009, 01:21:06 AM »
Tsk-tsk, Chateau! Half-m-v-squared!

That gives us 35.7m/s (assuming no friction). Yikes!
  omg ........ :grins: , maybe you should 1, and only 1 of those meds Neobie  :angel:  :lol:

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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #240 on: February 17, 2009, 01:24:16 AM »
Tsk-tsk, Chateau! Half-m-v-squared!

That gives us 35.7m/s (assuming no friction). Yikes!
  omg ........ :grins: , maybe you should 1, and only 1 of those meds Neobie  :angel:  :lol:

ooppppppppsssssssss

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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #241 on: February 17, 2009, 01:27:23 AM »
No!

The formula takes into account the kinetic energy of rotation:  (1/2) I w^2

where I = (1/2) mr^2 is the moment of inertia of a cylinder and w is the angular velocity of rotation.

We also assume that the cheese rolls without slipping!   :wise
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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #242 on: February 17, 2009, 03:24:29 AM »
 :umn: No science! (:;)

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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #243 on: February 17, 2009, 03:40:30 AM »
:umn: No science! (:;)

It's just a couple of little numbers, nothing to be scared of :funny:

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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #244 on: February 17, 2009, 03:52:14 AM »
Each cheese wheel weighs 22.7kg, which translates to 811kgms^-1 of momentum, which would send someone like Amanda (who says she weighs 45.6kg) flying at 11.9ms^-1 or 26.6mph in an inelastic collision... blahblah

End Result: Cheese 1 Amanda 0


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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #245 on: February 17, 2009, 04:43:56 AM »
:umn: No science! (:;)

It's just a couple of little numbers, nothing to be scared of :funny:

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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #246 on: February 17, 2009, 04:54:39 AM »
The velocity of the rolling cheese can be estimated using conservation of energy.  The change in elevation from the cheese shack at 718 meters to the bottom of the hill at 653 meters is 65 meters.  All of the potential energy converts to kinetic energy of motion.  The relationship is:

(3/4) * mass * velocity^2 = mass * gravitational acceleration * change of elevation

Solving for velocity:

velocity =  sqrt(1.3333 * gravitational acceleration * change of elevation)

Using 9.8 meters/sec^2 for the gravity we get a speed of 29 meters/sec or 65 mph!   :lol:

9.8 meters per second squared is an acceleration due to gravity, not gravity. Gravity (gravitational force) is measured in Newtons.  :)   but it is really just semantics

Opps, I missed the gravitational acceleration, sorry I butted in.

When I first saw the rolling cheese, two things came to my mind. Delta PE = Delta KE    and Delta p = F delta t and a very horrible philmination if it hit anyone....lol
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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #247 on: February 17, 2009, 05:03:16 AM »
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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #248 on: February 17, 2009, 07:38:08 AM »
ugh...I'm having flashbacks of Physics 101 all over again
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Re: Episode 1 open discussion/updates/commentary
« Reply #249 on: February 17, 2009, 11:31:10 AM »
ugh...I'm having flashbacks of Physics 101 all over again

Me too! But I love our science guys, just don't ask me any questions, lol!

I strongly suspect that teams were told not to push or roll their cheeses, but clearly as they began getting away from the racers production must have had to reconsider what was acceptable and what was not.

Phil said in his blog:

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Speaking of unpredictable, Switzerland took us to a whole new level of mayhem. You know you're capturing classic television moments when all around you people are yelling out "watch out for the flying cheese." The locals lost it. The teams certainly lost it. And to be perfectly honest with you, no one in production knew what might happen next. Thank goodness for those fences or who knows where those cheese bombs might have ended up.

So my guess is that the first teams started out going on the clue rules only, but then production would be having to make decisions on the "roll", :lol3:
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