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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #100 on: September 29, 2008, 07:27:21 PM »
Slowhatch noted the ears were large so they do match Cambodia,, I'm looking around Battambang. Our guy/lady is dressed like a Buddhist.


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« Reply #101 on: September 29, 2008, 07:35:45 PM »
Wat Phnom too

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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #102 on: September 29, 2008, 11:55:26 PM »
#12 The almond eyes resemble the Rajasthan puppets (kathputli) somewhat.

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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #103 on: September 30, 2008, 12:32:41 AM »
That kathputli name for those puppets is what led me here yesterday:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17652.msg353845.html#msg353845

But not entirely sure where this is exactly and was  the area in any of Matt's pics? ???

" Kathputli Colony, a slum beneath the bridge of Shadipur Depot in South Delhi. "
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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #104 on: September 30, 2008, 12:57:08 AM »
Same thing. Rajasthani puppet=kathputli. Shadipur Depot, like you mentioned, is some sort of performer's neighborhood. (Matt's photos! I keep forgetting about them  :duh:)


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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #105 on: September 30, 2008, 12:59:22 AM »
Here is some more w/ GORGEOUS PHOTOS!

http://archive.stuartfreedman.com/gpgs.aspx?pgid=6331574&e=0&p=0

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Shadipur Depot is India's 'street of dreams'. A sprawling slum colony, here you can find many of India's most accomplished acrobats, magicians and performers. If you know where to look...[...
It would be true to say that you can smell Shadipur before you can see it. It is a place of enormous poverty but also enormous richness. It is a place where you might see miracles but also a place where you will always see a fight.

Shadipur is home to most of Delhi’s traditional entertainers - acrobats, magicians, dancers and the like, and here, to India’s shame, they remain - stuck between poverty on the one hand and international stardom on the other, consigned to their fate by bureaucracy and the ineptitude of the authorities. A place forgotten or unknown to most Delhi residents.

On a filthy and cold winter morning in Delhi, the pollution hangs low enough to taste. Sandwiched between the flyover and the bus depot, from where Shadipur takes it’s name, the Colony is starting to wake up.

Barefoot children are running through the open sewers and those that have no facilities in their shacks are relieving themselves over the embankment. There’s a great commotion of spitting and hoiking of phlegm and a man is lying where he lay last night, dead drunk, covered in vomit. Then you hear the drums starting up. Like a rough dawn chorus, someone is practising a tabla , then someone else joins in, then there’s singing. Then bedlam. Walking becomes nigh impossible down the crowded, twisting, narrow lanes. Children run screaming past and push into you. Men with instruments in cloth bags hurry down to the main road to catch a bus for a gig. Bejewelled Rajasthani women start their daily grind of washing and cooking.

Out of this chaos, comes Bagwan Das, a heavy man in his fifties; thinning hair, big smile.

I have come to listen to this internationally renown singer and follow him to his compound, a whitewashed brick shack with a tiny courtyard. Surrounded by his family and accompanied by his three sons, he sings quawaali , Sufi devotional songs with such an intensity and passion that you can forget you are in a ghetto; or that you are anywhere at all.

His photo album bears testament to his international tours - most of Europe, The Middle East, even America once. “He is one of India’s finest cultural ambassadors”, says Bagwati Hartal, who runs an NGO called SARTHI (Charioteer) that looks after the artists. “But he lives in, well, Shadipur...”, barely hiding his frustration. Indeed Shadipur, as a slum is a very new one. It is also a double-edged sword - a wonderful success and a disastrous failure.

“Before Shadipur, we used to wander”, says Bagwan Das. Indeed, most of the traditional performers were living a gypsy-like existence, going from one place to another, performing at fairs, pilgrimages and royalty. 1947 changed all of that. Independence, meant a time of great suffering for many traditional ways. Nobility lost it’s financial power and overnight, the traditional performers lost their wealthy clients. As India heaves itself towards modernity, so too have the traditional performers been sent into decline by TV and Bollywood.

Lured by the bright lights and money of Delhi, many families came and stayed. By the early ’Seventies, there were many scattered across the city, eking out an existence.

“At the time, ” continues Bagwati, “perhaps a dozen families lived in Shadipur”. Rajeev, SARTHI, the founder of SARTHI, persuaded all the others to move in together. By 1975, 150 performer’s families, registered themselves as a co-operative”. And that’s where they stayed. Bagwati pulls out numerous architects plans, dusty and yellowed from the Delhi air, that were created around this time to transform the ghetto into something that India could be proud of. Incredibly, theatres, a museum - even tourist facilities were outlined. The performers started to travel overseas and were even championed by Rajiv Ghandi. It made no difference however, as Delhi corruption and bureaucracy strangled any progress.

Today, the performers number barely a fifth of the Colony. They have been joined by the destitute and the unloved of the streets - the sweepers, the hawkers and the beggars.

Puran Bhatt sits on top of his roof, surrounded by puppets. Big ones, small ones, hundreds. Puran is one of Shadipur’s successes. A puppeteer from the age of nine, he carves all his own puppets and has found huge international acclaim, especially in France where he holds a yearly festival. Foreign puppeteers stay with him

for weeks to learn his skill. Surely though, with all this success, he could leave the Depot?.

“It is” as he explains, “not so simple”. For a start, his family are all around. His father died here. Moreover, people know exactly where to find him - a very Indian contentment.
Raffan, the young, roguish street hustler is more direct. “It’s about money”. Why leave the Depot when it’s free? The residents pay no rent, no bills and no income tax. Their electricity and water are “procured” from the Delhi corporation. Life is cheap. He leads a merry band across the motorway to perform some street magic. He too has been abroad. His photo album has many pictures of him with various Eastern European girl-acrobats, kissing and holding hands. Raffan is 19 going on 50. His control of the crowd is magical, and with his young sidekick, Chi-Chi, gets around Rs1000 for pretending to strangle and stab his partner. After a few card tricks and sleight of hands, it’s back to the Depot for tea.

A greater contrast could not be found with Judduchkra Iqbal. Most of the colonies’ magicians are Muslim and they live in their own separate, very clean and tidy area. Iqbal’s father and uncle are famous and he works hard. His children are polite and his appearance is neat. He too works a great deal, “But not in the street”, he says pointedly. Mostly he does venues for the well-to-do Delhi Wallahs. “Yes”, he would leave if he could, but he simply hasn’t enough money. “Delhi is an expensive city”.

The problem with Shadipur is that despite the huge pool of talent, as time goes on the next generation, brought up on despair and frustration and alcohol, will never escape from their filthy tinsel town. Yet, there is some light. SARTHI has worked hard to exempt the residents from the catch-all Bombay Beggary Act (a great excuse for the eternally corrupt Delhi Police to extort money), pushed on with an anti-alcohol scheme and even persuaded some to open bank accounts.
Night is falling, a sickle moon hangs over Shadipur. Musicians return home from their gigs, dressed in shiny costumes. Singing can be heard. Someone will always offer you tea and an impromptu performance. If you know where to look there is warmth and great kindness from a community that only such dreadful poverty can bring.
 
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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #106 on: September 30, 2008, 01:02:52 AM »
So far I have found reference to it in South, West, and North Delhi  :lol: --where is that map? Sure would be great if we could put our racers here ...
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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #107 on: September 30, 2008, 09:40:17 AM »
27/34  would be a hindu wedding, the arrival of the groom - barat


http://www.pashweddings.com/content/articles/35/1/Love-And-Marriage---Hindu-Style/Page1.html


 "And different, considering the groom, dressed in the traditional tunic and loose pants, arrived to the ceremony astride a white horse. It is a Hindu custom, called the Barat, that signifies a welcoming of the groom and which Michelle describes as very parade-like and festive. In India, the Barat can vary greatly with the groom being greeted to the ceremony by an officiating priest or by the bride, who will drape him with a garland of flowers designed for the occasion. In some instances, it will be the bride’s mother who will greet and bless him. In any case, the Barat is a lively moment, made all the more so by the band that leads it and the dancing friends and relatives who follow. "

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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #108 on: September 30, 2008, 10:01:58 AM »

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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #109 on: September 30, 2008, 11:12:11 AM »
 :yess:  just because I really wanted to know exactly where this guy on the rickshaw was....

he's at a bazaar near the Jama Masjid Mosque Fatehpuri Masjid (mosque)   ;)

eta: corrected mosque name because Google Earth people mislabel their locations  (:;)
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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #110 on: September 30, 2008, 11:25:41 AM »
Boingo, any chance you could see if that Shadipur Depot is anywhere near any of the where Matt went's pics??   :please:  Or anywhere else we have seen them?



Or an updated all the locations map for Delhi would be SOOOO nice!!  :kuss:

I'm working in MAPS! and need some help, lol!
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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #111 on: September 30, 2008, 11:58:00 AM »
Boingo, any chance you could see if that Shadipur Depot is anywhere near any of the where Matt went's pics??   :please:  Or anywhere else we have seen them?


 :lol:  sorry to say that Shadipur Depot is just off the left side of your "Where Matt Went" map.

Here's some additional locations for your map.   :snicker:

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« Reply #112 on: September 30, 2008, 12:21:21 PM »
Thank You! I can't be sure they go there, but I like it! :kuss:
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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #113 on: October 27, 2008, 01:38:32 AM »
#23 made her? appearance tonight

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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #114 on: October 27, 2008, 01:54:09 AM »
Stumped. Never found it.  :-[

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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #115 on: October 27, 2008, 02:13:47 AM »
As long as the topic is back up, I'll throw in this: the boiled sheep's head is Koy-bas, which is served--maybe in many places, but especially at the Essyk restaurant. Look at the gallery on their webpage and see if you think the tablecloths match.

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« Reply #116 on: October 27, 2008, 11:11:27 AM »
Stumped. Never found it.  :-[
I never found it either Slowhatch and did spend some time on it. Where exactly it is we might never know.
Nice match on the sheep head!

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« Reply #117 on: October 27, 2008, 01:10:28 PM »
I'll say slowhatch!  :jam:

From your link I learned that the brain is still in there...I am already feeling sorry for our teams! yuck....
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Re: Introflashs go here
« Reply #118 on: October 29, 2008, 01:21:34 AM »
Wat Preah Prom Rath, in downtown Siem Reap. Take a look at the fellow hiding under the umbrella.

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« Reply #119 on: October 29, 2008, 02:25:55 AM »
 :wohoo:

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« Reply #120 on: October 29, 2008, 08:33:06 AM »
Oh good job, Slowhatch!! I hate having leftover ones.:lol:

But teams didn't go there at all, did  they? Just a clue....
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« Reply #121 on: October 29, 2008, 04:37:34 PM »
Your just awesome Slowhatch  :jam:


 

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