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« on: September 29, 2008, 12:20:33 PM »

Well preliminary ratins are out for last nights season premiere of AR.

Tar scored 10.29 million viewers.  And a 3.2 in the adult 18-49 demo.

Well this is both good and bad news.

Lets get the bad news out of the way.
1st Becuase of a sports overrun the viewer numbers will probably fall slightly.
2nd We are down 3.53 million from the premiere last year (which benifted by an excellent overrun).
3rd Both 60 minutes (12.14 million) and Cold Case (11.24 million scored more viewers)

Okay on with the good news.
Our demo was the highest for CBS 60 min (2.2), Cold Case (2.7), Unit (2.6).
We are up from the year ago performance of Viva Laughlin by about 4 million viewers.
We scored better then Extreme Makeover:  Home Edition in viewers and demo (and thats unusual.

So overall we did pretty good, not great, but pretty good.
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2008, 12:32:48 PM »

This ia season that is going to grow on viewers, I would think...

Thanks for the stats!
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2008, 12:34:05 PM »

Fox had the NFL overrun which hurt, plus NBC is having tremendous ratings with Sunday Night Football thus far.

Next week, CBS has the overrun so that should help.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2008, 01:02:45 PM »

Fox had the NFL overrun which hurt, plus NBC is having tremendous ratings with Sunday Night Football thus far.

Next week, CBS has the overrun so that should help.

the cowboys plus a bad jacksonville team playing on sunday night will help tar increase viewers
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2008, 05:31:52 AM »

Jen parker here..................All I have to say is its pretty hard following TAR 12....there are some major footsteps to be followed in and I cant wait to see who is going to grow on me.
And whats up with the pinkies not being more grateful for coming in last.......remember the donkey episode with nate and I how FREAKIN excited were we to be standing on the Mat in 10th place??!!!!!!!!!!
peace until the next episode
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2008, 09:31:08 AM »

You guys definitely had an uncooperative donkey.
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2008, 03:31:56 PM »

In any case, TAR did better than that monstrosity of a reality show, Bumbling Bums
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2008, 12:26:05 PM »

God we suck.

Fast Nationals are in (again because of the over run this might change a bit with final numbers) but here you go.  We were watched by only 10.78 million viewers.

That plain sucks for a sports overrun (and in fact since we moved to Sunday) thats the smallest audience the show has ever had with a sports overrun.

Even our 18-49 demo wasn't very good.  With just a 3.2 (though that was enough to beat Cold Case and the Unit).

Very disappointing.
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008, 12:45:04 PM »



i hope CBS doesn't cancel TAR14....or has it already been given the 100% greenlight, no matter how the TAR13 ratings are?
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2008, 01:20:53 PM »

Its not that bad Michael.  Almost all shows are down from the year ago numbers (and thats typical).  Its just disappointing that this is the rist time since season 9 that TAR hasn't increased over the previous year's cycle.
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2008, 01:25:45 PM »

Its not that bad Michael.  Almost all shows are down from the year ago numbers (and thats typical).  Its just disappointing that this is the rist time since season 9 that TAR hasn't increased over the previous year's cycle.

I know! Especially since this season is very good
oh well, let's home they improve
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2008, 02:18:28 PM »

Well, a lot of it has to do with the NFL ratings which are up this season. Once again, Sunday Night Football killed everyone this week. That's including Desperate Housewives which until this season had been "NFL-proof".
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2008, 02:25:07 PM »

Weren't we supposed to be able to see complete episodes at CBS this time? If so, I haven't found them yet... I thought maybe that would play a role but maybe not...

I was thinking that TiVo and Later viewing is probably really big for TAR...I always like to be able to pause and take a second look here more than any other show I watch.  Is Tivo use tracked at all and factored in any of the rating charts?
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2008, 08:11:21 PM »

This guy has been keeping charts for awhile


Last night TAR ratings held steady, actually it was even slightly
higher than the season premiere thanks to football overrun. It
even helped CBS to win 8PM time slot. It is a great news because
most shows lose 20% of viewers when the second episode airs. It is
an exciting episode thanks to the multiple trainwrecks spreading
over the whole hour. People love watching trainwreck, especially
reality show viewers. They should come back next week. Just don't
submit this episode for the next Emmy's.

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8PM - 9PM Time Slot Ratings:


CBS (60 Minutes&TAR) 8.4/13
NFL on NBC 7.3/11
Extreme Makeover: Home Edition 7.2/11
Simpson's 4.2/7
King of the Hill 3.8/6


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TAR 13.1 ratings:
Week 1: 6,2/10
Week 2: 6.4/10 (8:31 to 9:31) (8.4/13--CBS 8 to 9)
                                                    (6.7/10-- CBS
9 to 10)


TAR 12 ratings:
Week 1: 8.3/13 (8:27 to 9:27) (8.1/12--CBS 8:30 to 9)
                                                    (8.5/13--CBS 9
to 9:30)
Week 2: 6.8/10
Week 3: 7.6/12
Week 4: 7.6/11
Week 5: 6.8/10
Week 6: 7.4/11 (8:25 to 9:25) (8.3/12--CBS 8 to 9)
Week 7: 5.3/9  (8:22 to 9:22) (Holiday)
Week 8: 5.9/9  (8:40 to 9:40)
Week 9: 7.2/11 (8:42 to 9:42)
Week 10: 6.8/10
Week 11: 5.8/9 (Finale)


TAR 11 ratings:


Week 1: 6.7/10 (8:28 to 9:28) (7.0/11--CBS 8 to 9)
                                                    (7.2/11--CBS 9
to 10)
Week 2: 4.9/7
Week 3: 6.3/10
Week 4: 5.9/10
Week 5: 7.8/12 (8:45 to 9:45) (8.9/14--CBS 8 to 9)
                              (8.0/12--CBS 9 to 10)
Week 6: 6.8/11 (8:38 to 9:38) (7.1/12--CBS 8 to 9)
                              (7.2/11--CBS 9 to 10)
Week 7: 5.1/8 and 5.5/8
Week 8: 5.4/9
Week 9: 5.6/9
Week10: 5.4/9
Week11: 5.8/10
Week12: 6.2/10


TAR 10 ratings:


Week 1: 6.4/10 (first half hour) and 6.3/9
Week 2: 6.6/10
Week 3: 7.8/12 (8:34 to 9:34) (8.5/13--CBS 8 to 9)
Week 4: 6.4/10
Week 5: 7.4/11 (8:22 to 9:22) (8.1/12--CBS 8 to 9)
                              (8.2/12--CBS 9 to 10)
Week 6: 6.8/10
Week 7: 8.3/13 (8:20 to 9:20) (8.2/13--CBS 8 to 9)
                              (8.8/13--CBS 9 to 10)
Week 8: 7.7/11 (8:31 to 9:31) (8.5/12--CBS 8 to 9)
                              (8.3/12--CBS 9 to 10)
Week 9: 6.8/10
Week10: 7.9/12 (8:22 to 9:22) (8.9/13--CBS 8 to 9)
                              (8.6/13--CBS 9 to 10)


Week11: 6.5/10
Week12: 6.6/10
Week13: 8.0/12 (8:25 to 9:25) (8.4/13--CBS 8 to 9)
                              (8.3/12--CBS 9 to 10)


TAR 9 ratings:


Week 1: 6.9/10 and 6.3/10
Week 2: 6.1/10
Week 3: 6.1/10
Week 4: 6.0/10
Week 5: 5.6/9
Week 6: 5.0/8 (new time slot)
Week 7: 5.0/9
Week 8: 5.6/10
Week 9: 5.3/9
Week 10: 5.0/8
Week 11: 5.5/9
Week 12: 5.3/9 and 5.5/8 (Two hour finale)


TAR 8 ratings:


Week 1: 7.0/10 and 6.5/10
Week 2: 7.2/11
Week 3: 7.1/10
Week 4: 7.1/11
Week 5: 6.7/10
Week 6: 6.8/10
Week 7: 6.5/10 and 6.5/11
Week 8: 6.3/10
Week 9: No program.
Week10: 5.5/8
Week11: 6.7/10
Week12: 6.8/10 and 7.3/11 (Two hour finale)


TAR 7 ratings:


Week 1: 7.5/11 and 7.4/12
Week 2: 7.1/11
Week 3: 7.6/12
Week 4: 7.8/12
Week 5: 7.7/12 and 7.8/12
Week 6: 7.6/12
Week6A: 3.6/7 (Clips show)
Week 7: 8.1/12
Week 8: 7.7/12
Week 9: 8.5/13
Week10: 8.1/12
Week11: 9.1/14 and 10.1/16 (Two hour finale)


TAR 6 ratings:


Week 1: 7.3/11 and 7.5/12 (Two hour premiere)
Week 2: 7.1/11
Week 3: 7.6/11
Week 4: 7.5/11
Week 5: 7.0/11
Week 6: 6.2/10
Week 7: 6.4/11 (Clips show)
Week 8: 7.3/11
Week 9: 7.1/11
Week10: 6.6/10
Week11: 7.5/11
Week12: 7.5/11
Week13: 7.5/11 and 7.8/13 (Two hour finale)





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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2008, 12:33:37 AM »

I was thinking that TiVo and Later viewing is probably really big for TAR...I always like to be able to pause and take a second look here more than any other show I watch.  Is Tivo use tracked at all and factored in any of the rating charts?
DVR use is tracked and can be added to the overall ratings, but I'm not exactly sure how it's done.
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2008, 03:47:23 PM »

DVR results are usually release on the Monday 2 weeks after the episode airs.  FOr example they released the data for the week of 15-21.
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2008, 05:15:25 PM »

As long as CBS is happy 

CBS WINS THE WEEK IN VIEWERS, ADULTS 18-49 AND ADULTS 25-54
CBS Places First in Viewers on 5 Nights; Leads in Key Demos on 4 Nights
 



THE AMAZING RACE (8:30-9:30PM) was up +10% in households (6.6/10 from 6.0/09), +13% in adults 25-54 (4.4/09 from 3.9/09), +6% in adults 18-49 (3.4/08 from 3.2/08) and added +960,000 viewers (11.00m from 10.04m, +10%) compared to last week's season premiere.

 

CBS top programs of the week:  #2 NCIS (an average of 17.47m viewers), #3 60 MINUTES (16.65m), #6 THE MENTALIST (15.48m), #7 CSI: NY (14.88m), #8 CRIMINAL MINDS (14.78m), #9 CSI: MIAMI (14.35m), #11 TWO AND A HALF MEN (13.58m), #12 SURVIVOR: GABON (13.08m), #15 WITHOUT A TRACE (12.61m), #17 COLD CASE (11.10m), #18 THE AMAZING RACE (11.00m), #26 THE UNIT (9.46m), #27 GHOST WHISPERER (P) (9.45m) and #28 WORST WEEK (8.96m).

 

Prime averages are based on the following hours of rated broadcasts in Week #2:

 

CBS:    20.5 hours

NBC:   20 hours

ABC:   20.5 hours

FOX:   14 hours

 

(Editor's Note:  CBS has not yet premiered the highly rated CSI which is included in year ago averages.  CSI premieres Thursday, Oct. 9)

 

NATIONAL NIELSEN SUMMARY - PRIMETIME                                                                                     

Week #2 of 2008-09 Season (ending: 10/05/08)                                                                                             

                                                                                               

                        2008-09                       2007-08                                   

HOUSEHOLDS                                                                                             

                        Rtg       Sh                    Rtg       Sh                    Chg

CBS                 7.0       12                    7.3       12                    -4%

NBC                5.0       8                      5.8       10                    -14%

ABC                6.0       10                    7.1       12                    -15%

FOX                4.0       6                      4.3       7                      -7%

                                                                                               

                                                                                               

VIEWERS                                                                                           

                        (000)                            (000)                            Chg

CBS                 11,082                         11,418                         -3%

NBC                7,834                           9,235                           -15%

ABC                9,226                           10,794                         -15%

FOX                6,447                           7,024                           -8%

                                                                                               

A25-54                                                                                               

                        Rtg       Sh                    Rtg       Sh                    Chg

CBS                 4.1       10                    4.2       11                    -2%

NBC                3.2       8                      4.0       10                    -20%

ABC                3.3       8                      4.2       11                    -21%

FOX                2.7       7                      2.8       7                      -4%

                                                                                               

                                                                                               

A18-49                                                                                               

                        Rtg       Sh                    Rtg       Sh                    Chg

CBS                 3.2       9                      3.3       9                      -3%

NBC                2.8       8                      3.6       10                    -22%

ABC                2.8       8                      3.6       10                    -22%

FOX                2.5       7                      2.7       7                      -7%

                                                                                                                       

                                                                                               

A18-34                                                                                               

                        Rtg       Sh                    Rtg       Sh                    Chg

CBS                 2.1       7                      2.4       7                      -13%

NBC                2.3       7                      3.1       10                    -26%

ABC                2.1       7                      2.9       9                      -28%

FOX                2.4       8                      2.7       8                      -11%

                                                                                               

                                               

                                               

National Nielsen Rank for Demographic: PER2+    for    9/29/2008  -  10/5/2008                                             

 

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1.         Dancing With The Stars                                                            ABC    18883

2.         NCIS                                                                                       CBS     17470

3.         60 MINUTES                                                                          CBS     16648

4.         Desperate Housewives                                                 ABC    15685

5.         Dancing With The Stars Results                                    (P)       ABC    15491

6.         MENTALIST, THE                                                                 CBS     15484

7.         CSI: NY                                                                                  CBS     14878

8.         CRIMINAL MINDS                                                               CBS     14780

9.         CSI: MIAMI                                                                            CBS     14345

10.       NBC Sunday Nigh Football              Steelers vs Jaguars            NBC    14207

11.       TWO AND A HALF MEN                                                     CBS     13577

12.       SURVIVOR: GABON                                                 CBS     13076

13.       House                                                                                      FOX    12978

14.       America's Got Talent-Wednesday                                             NBC    12693

15.       WITHOUT A TRACE                                                 CBS     12611

16.       Extreme Makeover: Home Edition-8P                           ABC    11832

17.       COLD CASE                                                                          CBS     11095

18.       AMAZING RACE 13                                                              CBS     10999

19.       Law And Order: SVU                                                              NBC    10391

20.       Brothers & Sisters                                                                    ABC    10326                                     

 

 

National Nielsen Rank for Demographic: A25-54    for    9/29/2008  -  10/5/2008

 

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1.         Desperate Housewives                                                 ABC    6.7

2.         NBC Sunday Nigh Football              Steelers vs Jaguars            NBC    6.1

2.         TWO AND A HALF MEN                                                     CBS     6.1

4.         House                                                                                      FOX    6.0

5.         Dancing With The Stars                                                            ABC    5.9

6.         SURVIVOR: GABON                                                 CBS     5.6

7.         CSI: NY                                                                                  CBS     5.4

7.         CSI: MIAMI                                                                            CBS     5.4

7.         CRIMINAL MINDS                                                               CBS     5.4

10.       60 MINUTES                                                                          CBS     5.3

11.       MENTALIST, THE                                                                 CBS     5.1

12.       NCIS                                                                                       CBS     5.0

13.       Dancing With The Stars Result                          (P)       ABC    4.8

14.       Fringe                                                                                       FOX    4.7

15.       Heroes                                                                                     NBC    4.6

16.       Extreme Makeover: Home Edition-8P                           ABC    4.4

 

16.       AMAZING RACE 13                                                              CBS     4.4

18.       Law And Order: SVU                                                              NBC    4.3

18.       HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER                                              CBS     4.3

18.       Brothers & Sisters                                                                    ABC    4.3

18.       America's Got Talent-Wednesday                                             NBC    4.3

 

 

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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2008, 05:25:33 PM »

TOP 20!! That's HUGE!!

 
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2008, 09:54:38 PM »

Well I am surprised they didn't include the Vice Presidential Debate in this weeks ratings.  Because that alone would have been enough to knock us out of the top 20, since it did over 11 million viewers on 3 different networks.

On the demo front wit a 3.4 in the adult 18-49 we beat all but 60 minutes (typical during a sports overrun when 60 minutes gets the lion share of bleed over audience in all age groups).

Unlike last week we gt a minor bump in ratings, but Cold Case and The Unit took a hit in ratings and demo.  Which sorry for them, but good for us.  As we beat Cold Case and the Unit in all three demo groups 18-34, 18-49 and 25-54 (which we did last week as well and beat 60 minutes in all three of those demos), but we also outperformed).

While it is nice to see us go up with finals (even if just marginally).  LAst year when 60 minutes would pull that high of a ratings number we were performing stronger.

With the ABC lineup also doing weaker across the board, I need to check last years Football to see if they are performing at similar levels (or lower or higher).

But to gloat (at CBS expense) the 8pm hour say dramatic year to year growth over same week last year.  When Viva premiered........
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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2008, 10:55:52 PM »

I'm shocked that ratings are down, because I think it's SUCH a good season!  Already so much drama!!!  Stupid stupid football and 60minutes gets in our way and then people lose interest
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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2008, 11:44:29 PM »

yeah
i was thinking about it today

TAR12 felt nothing like TAR for some reason....i'm not sure what it was....but TAR13 already feels alot more "TARish" if that makes sence..
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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2008, 11:47:36 PM »

yeah
i was thinking about it today

TAR12 felt nothing like TAR for some reason....i'm not sure what it was....but TAR13 already feels alot more "TARish" if that makes sence..
I agree Michael, TAR12 was not all that. This season rocks! I can't get into the TAR12 re-runs on the Travel Channel ..I watched 1 episode in all.
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« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2008, 11:49:07 PM »

me too puddin!
i was re-watching ALL the seasons and I got to TAR12 and I just didn't like it. It felt like a different show? TAR13 rocks though
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2008, 12:07:06 AM »

Well I am surprised they didn't include the Vice Presidential Debate in this weeks ratings.  Because that alone would have been enough to knock us out of the top 20, since it did over 11 million viewers on 3 different networks.
Special event news programming like the Presidential Debates aren't included in the ratings because they don't contain commercials. Debates are usually put into another category and aren't counted in the primetime ratings.

ETA - I omitted don't and I put that in bold. Sorry for the confusion.
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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2008, 12:17:00 AM »

I was curious because I knew they performed exceptionally well, especially for the Vice Presidential Debates.  I mean really.
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