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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #75 on: May 08, 2008, 01:39:00 AM »

(Insert joke in bad taste about the missing leg.)

Having gone through the places with direct flights to Siem Reap, here are some possible race destinations for our intrepid racers for running a leg in...

Timings will have to include a possible 12-hour Pit Stop:
Singapore - 1 day, 20h, 5min for racing
Bangkok - 1 day, 18h, 45min for racing
Ho Chi Minh City - 1 day, 16h, 40min for racing
Sydney - 1 day, 14h, 5min for racing
Auckland - 1 day, 12h, 5min for racing
Seoul - 1 day, 2h, 20min for racing
Guangzhou - 22h, 0min for racing
Hanoi - 20h, 0min for racing

(Although if racers are willing to try out that many more connections, I can't help but :faint:)



If you really must know:

Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney LA801/QF322: 0525 (Fri morning) to 0705 (Fri morning)
Sydney to Singapore SQ220: 0805 (Fri morning) to 1420 (Fri afternoon)
Singapore to Siem Reap MI616: 1025 (Sun morning) to 1135 (Sun morning)
Checked Auckland-Singapore and Auckland-Brisbane-Singapore

Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney LA801/QF322: 0525 (Fri morning) to 0705 (Fri morning)
Sydney to Bangkok TG994: 1000 (Fri morning) to 1625 (Fri afternoon)
Bangkok to Siem Reap PG907: 1740 (Fri evening) to 1900 (Fri night)

Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney LA801/QF322: 0525 (Fri morning) to 0705 (Fri morning)
Sydney to Ho Chi Minh City VN782: 1115 (Fri morning) to 1545 (Fri afternoon)
Ho Chi Minh City to Siem Reap VN809: 0825 (Sun morning) to 0945 (Sun morning)
Checked Auckland-Ho Chi Minh City

Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney LA801/QF322: 0525 (Fri morning) to 0705 (Fri morning)
Sydney to Bangkok TG992: 2110 (Sat night) to 0559 (Sun morning)
Bangkok to Siem Reap PG903: 0800 (Sun morning) to 0900 (Sun morning)
Checked Sydney-Singapore-Bangkok route

Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney TG4826: 1600 (Sat afternoon) to 1730 (Sat afternoon)
Sydney to Bangkok TG992: 2110 (Sat night) to 0559 (Sun morning)
Bangkok to Siem Reap PG903: 0800 (Sun morning) to 0900 (Sun morning)

Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney LA801/QF322: 0525 (Fri morning) to 0705 (Fri morning)
Sydney to Seoul KE122: 0800 (Fri morning) to 1740 (Fri afternoon)
Seoul to Siem Reap OZ737: 2000 (Sat night) to 2325 (Sat night)

Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney LA801/QF322: 0525 (Fri morning) to 0705 (Fri morning)
Sydney to Guangzhou CZ326: 0950 (Fri morning) to 1700 (Fri afternoon)
Guangzhou to Siem Reap CZ3053: 1300 (Sat afternoon) to 1525 (Sat afternoon)
Checked Auckland-Guangzhou route

Santiago to Auckland LA801/QF322: 2245 (Wed night) to 0355 (Fri morning)
Auckland to Sydney LA801/QF322: 0525 (Fri morning) to 0705 (Fri morning)
Sydney to Ho Chi Minh City VN782: 1115 (Fri morning) to 1545 (Fri afternoon)
Ho Chi Minh City to Hanoi VN782: 1800 (Fri evening) to 2000 (Fri night)
Hanoi to Siem Reap U4232: 1600 (Sat afternoon) to 1800 (Sat evening)
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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #76 on: May 08, 2008, 09:26:37 AM »
Neobie, most of the information you show above was essentially duplicative in terms of already known results. however, you did inspire me to look at one route that should have been examined but that I overlooked previously because it's so sneaky:

Santiago
Auckland
Sydney
Singapore
Bangkok

The reason why this is sneaky is that no flights leave Sydney for Bangkok before mid-afternoon, so there is a huge layover. However, there are two morning flights from Sydney to Singapore and both should be connectable from LAN801 coming in at 7am after its stop in Auckland. Here is what I mean:

SQ220 SYD SIN 0815 1420
TG414 SIN BKK 1530 1650 (or 15 minutes later on departure and arrival, depending on which one you like; both sets are listed on some schedules)

This gets teams into Bangkok to easily make connections into Siem Reap in the late afternoon, such as Bangkok Airways 5901 1720 1840 BKK REP.

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #77 on: May 08, 2008, 09:38:13 AM »
DELHI TO DUBAI (that has a nice alliteraton to it)

We can take that alliteration one step further once we find out that one of the 2 best routes to Dubai is via Doha. That is like the old tinker to Evers to Chance double play combination of the 1908 chicago Cubs - Delhi to Doha to Dubai.

DEL DOH QR233 0500 0620
DOH DXB QR100 0755 1000

OR

DEL AUH 9W582   2100 2335
AUH DXB 9W7485 0115 0245

The first is Qatar Airways through Doha and the second Jet Airways through Abu Dhabi.

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #78 on: May 08, 2008, 09:48:42 AM »
Apskip, I apologize for not being more lucid. The focus of the post wasn't really about how teams get into Siem Reap, but how long teams could spend at each place, showing the probability that the airport "hinterland" (New Zealand for Auckland, for example) could be the missing leg between Santiago and Siem Reap.

I understand that you're working under the notion that Santiago to Siem Reap is one continuous leg. However, teams would have little problem reaching Siem Reap by Friday night, a long long time for production to drag out in a single city until Tuesday when they leave for Bangkok. The proposal of a "rest day" in Bangkok is sound, but historically I've never heard of production having one outside of the Pit Stops, in the middle of a leg. The Siem Reap Pit Stop wasn't extended either, as we have sightings of racers in action both on Sunday and Monday.

blahblah The flights above, therefore, aren't chosen because they are overall quickest, but how long a layover it provides in certain destination cities - how early teams could get into a destination from Santiago, and how long they could stay there (for a leg) before rushing to make their appearance on Tonle Sap on Sunday.

An example - Ho Chi Minh City and surrounds, with its 40h layover, would be a much more plausible location to spend a leg than Hanoi with 20h, which is hardly enough time to run a leg, have a Pit Stop, and getting to and from the airport. This, of course, is working under the assumption that there is a leg in between Santiago and Siem Reap.




On another note, teams arrived in Terminal 2 in Dubai, I think. Qatar comes in through Terminal 1. Jet Airways' 9W7485 is a bus service, not a flight, so it probably wouldn't entail teams passing through airport customs at Dubai.

Could they have taken the direct from Air India? (This schedule, lifted from the Air India website, is also where I got the "apparent two-hour" flight from.)

AI9897: 0750 to 0945
AI9895: 2000 to 2155
AI747: 2055 to 2245



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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #79 on: May 08, 2008, 01:43:13 PM »
neobie, those are all valid flight numbers. The reason that I did not find them on general-purpose airline reservations systems is that they are all filled from May 8 to May 11 except for AI747. The Air India reservations systems will boldly tell you to rebook for May 12 or later. Even then, specific flights are already sold out in fare classes for May 12 and forward. Other reservations will not even acknowledge the existence of those flights if they all fully booked.

I conclude that World Race Productions planners must have reserved lots of seats for the teams and for production way in advance. They did not want a repeat of what happened leaving Maputo in AR11.


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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #80 on: May 08, 2008, 02:27:21 PM »
Yeah it is probably one of the legs where they have a provided flights. They typically do have that sort of thing once a season or so.

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #81 on: May 08, 2008, 04:32:48 PM »
I wanted to get a jump on where teams might be going after Dubai. Dubai is really a crossroads of the world and its flight schedules prove that. I have analyzed only the outbound flights north and west, ignoring anything eastbound. I have also ignored local flights to places like Bahrain, Doha, Muscat, or Kuwait. So here goes starting at 2100 local Dubai time, which was a few hours ago:

SV551 Jeddah 2100
IY863 Sanna   2100
SV553 Riyadh  2145
ET3616 Addis Ababa 2230
DL007 Atlanta  2235
KL428 Amsterdam 0010
UM733 Harare  0030
LY383 Lampaca(Cyprus) 0035
BI097 Heathrow 0055
AF525 Paris CDG 0100
KQ233 Nairobi   0105
J2016 Baku      0110
BA016 Heathrow 0125
LH631 Frankfurt  0135
LX243 Zurich     0140
AZ747 Rome     0145
EK203 JFK         0200
OS042 Vienna   0205
OA344 Athens  0205
SU520 Moscow 0210
CX067 Frankfurt 0225
TK1163 Istanbul 0245
EK011 Gatwick  0245
AH4065 Algiers  0325
MS911 Cairo      0330
SQ490 Istanbul 0400
MS919 Alexandria 0415
EK761 Johannesburg 0440
MH156 Beirut      0440
ET601 Addis Ababa 0445
BG039 Riyadh     0445
KL430 Amsterdam 0700
JCI102 Amman    0700
CX039 Amsterdam 0705
CX063 Brussels 0710
EK917 Damscus 0715
EK957 Beirut     0720
Ek035 Newcastle 0720
EK787 Abidjan   0730
RJ613 Amman    0730
XU522 Nairobi   0730
EK751 Casablanca 0735
EK095 Nice        0735
Ek001 Heathrow 0735
TK1165 Istanbul 0745
LH639 Munich     0745
EK025 Glasgow  0750
EK099 Milan       0750
EK017 Manchester 0755
EK 015 Gatwick 0805
EK039 Birmingham 0805
EK072 Paris CDG  0825
EK045 Frankfurt  0825
EK707 Seychelles 0825
EK723 Entebbe   0825
Ek201 JFK           0830
EK049 Munich     0835
EK770 CapeTown 0835
EK241 Toronto    0835
EK087 Zurich       0840
EK055 Dusseldorf 0840
EK921 Cairo        0850
EK059 Hamburg  0850
PG027 Cairo       0900
Ek4839 Khartoum 0900
Ek749 Tripoli       0900
EK211 Houston   0905
SV6265 Jeddah  0905
BA108  Heathrow 0910
EK407 Vienna     0910
EK931 Heathrow 0910
EK783 Lagos      0915
VS401 Heathrow 0925
EK605 Athens     0935
EK135 Venice      0945
EK029 Heathrow 0950
EK133 Moscow    0955
SWT985P Cairo   1000
SV6263 Jeddah   1005
EK719 Nairobi     1005
EK763 Johannesburg 1005
MH6144 Frankfurt 1020
9S9991 Paris CDG 1030
Y7254 Luton        1030
EK725 DarEsSalaam 1050
EK9957 Zaragoza 1105
EK49901 Nairobi   1120
AF529 Paris CDG   1140
HY334 Tashkent    1230
AF6733 Paris CDG 1255
WY685 Beirut        1255
PK243 Moscow      1255
CX079 Frankfurt    1255
JCX903 Frankfurt   1300
KL168 Amsterdam  1315
SV367 Jeddah        1345
S79612 Perm         1345
FX5034 Paris CDG  1350
EK903 Amman        1400
EK003 Heathrow    1415
EK047 Frankfurt     1430
EK121 Istanbul      1430
Ek057 Dusseldorf   1430
Ek019 Manchester 1435
EK733 Khartoum    1440
EK763 Johannesburg 1440
Ek009 Gatwick       1500
EK037 Birmingham 1500
RJ611 Amman         1500
Ek075 Paris CDG     1500
Ek923 Cairo            1510
MS913 Cairo           1530
SV559 Riyadh         1600
Ek085 Zurich          1605
S7868 Moscow       1625
FC901 Riyadh         1630
FC603 Riyadh         1630
EK051 Munich         1630
XY602 Riyadh          1635
EK603 Jeddah         1645
7B1056 Moscow     1650
EK953 Beirut          1700
TU830 Tunis           1710
ET603 Addis Ababa 1800
SX006 Cologne       1800
SV555 Riyadh         1815
D97522 Moscow     1820
EK817 Riyadh         1825
UN9166 Moscow     1905
P5374 Kiev             1930
AZQ406 Baku         2000
B6353 Asmara       2000
NN8522 Moscow    2040
SP233 Khartoum    2045
ME429 Beirut         2050
XY604 Jeddah        2055

The one place that intrigues me the most is Cyprus. The flight there (Lampaca) leaving at 0035 goes to an island where the Amazing Race has neve been and is overdue to visit.

There are 129 international non-regional flights shown above. these could go to many different countries directly and making connections in an initial place they could end up practically anywhere in Europe or Africa.



 
 

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #82 on: May 08, 2008, 06:05:33 PM »
Thanks apskip! I was offline a good bit today and kept thinking--suppose Dubai is just a change planes place?

This gives us a lot to consider.

I would love to see Egypt again but new would also be good!
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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #83 on: May 08, 2008, 09:03:26 PM »
That's a lot of places to go to after Dubai.  I would eliminate all those cities in Saudi Arabia (can't see our gals running around loose there) and in the troubled mid east (Amman, Damascus, etc.)

Some interesting ones in Africa, but TAR has been to most of them.  Harare?

Too early for Europe or return to the States, so eliminate all European and Norh American spots.

That reduces the list quite a bit

Some other new ones:  Algiers, Tunis, Tashkent, Tripoli

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #84 on: May 08, 2008, 11:57:19 PM »
That's a lot of places to go to after Dubai.  I would eliminate all those cities in Saudi Arabia (can't see our gals running around loose there) and in the troubled mid east (Amman, Damascus, etc.)

Some interesting ones in Africa, but TAR has been to most of them.  Harare?

Too early for Europe or return to the States, so eliminate all European and Norh American spots.

That reduces the list quite a bit

Some other new ones:  Algiers, Tunis, Tashkent, Tripoli

From what I've heard (or not heard) Jordan's one of the better Middle Eastern countries, and I could see them going there before Saudi Arabia or Syria. Ditto Harare (though Malawi could be interesting).

And I wouldn't discount Europe just yet. TAR4 went to Asia in leg 6, TAR2 went to Asia in leg 5. Many others went in leg 7-8 (TAR1, TAR5, TAR7, TAR9, TAR12), so flipping the direction, a Europe leg wouldn't be unlikely (Azerbaijan, perhaps? There's a direct flight to Baku).


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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #85 on: May 09, 2008, 08:00:52 AM »
Actually, zackattack308, there are 2 flights to Baku. One is at 0110 and the other at 2000.

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #86 on: May 09, 2008, 08:52:40 AM »
TIMETABLE through arrival at Dubai(for leg there or transit elssewhere)

AR13 TIMETABLE - first two legs

Depending on when they arrive at LAX, teams have choices of 3 flight combinations to Sao Paulo:

4/22
LAX DFW AA2446 1250 1740 connecting in Dallas with DFW GRU AA963 1945 0750+1 (Note: first to arrive if on schedule)

LAX MIA AA252 1355 2142 connecting in Miami with MIA GRU 2330 0830+1 (Note: second to arrive if on schedule)

LAX GRU UA843 1405 1005+1 with a stop in ORD from 2005 to 2132 (Note: third and last to arrive)

4/23
This means that the tasks in Sao Paulo will have to take until after noon at the very least and that with a 12 hour pitstop it will be after midnight when teams are released.

4/24
There are numerous 2 1/4 hour nonstop flights from Sao Paulo to Salvador. However, choices are limited to the first 2 daily by virtue of the sighting of teams descending the exterior of the elevator just after 9am on 4/24. Those who were sighted could only be on this flight:

G3 1816 GRU SSA 0410 0625

Later teams could be on G31982 GRU SSA 0735 0950, but they will be quite a bit later to the elevator.

4/25 - 4/28
We do not know where teams go next. It could be Fortaleza, Recife, Manaus, Brasilia, LaPaz, Asuncion or elsewhere. It is highly highly likely that there is a REST DAY on 4/30 in the Santiago area.

4/28
Teams arrive in Santa Cruz Bolivia

4/29
Teams fly from Santa Cruz to Santiago. Chocies are:
LAN967 VVI SCL 1205 1725
LAN967 VVI IQT 1205 1355  LAN365 IQT SCL 1920 2230
TA34     VVI LIM 0805 0900  TA33     LIM SCL  2100 0205+1

4/30
It is highly highly likely that there is a REST DAY in the Santiago area.
What we appear to be sure of is that teams end up at Santiago Chile airport on this evening.

LAN801 2245 0355+2 SCL AKL

5/2
LAN801 0500 0700 AKL SYD
SQ220 0815 1425 SYD SIN
TG414 1530 1650 SIN BKK
PG907 1740 1900 BKK REP  OR PG909 1800 1940

5/3
REST DAY in Siem Reap area (although it could have come one day earlier in Auckland, Sydney, Singapore, or Bangkok)

5/5
Siem Reap to Bangkok airport
Most probable flights out will be PG904 REP BKK 0950 1045 or PG906 REP BKK 1250 1400 or PG914 1430 1540 although there are 2 more later. The news that there is a known 4 hour layover in Bangkok is interesting.

Choice of these 3 nonstop flights form BKK to DEL:
IC854 BKK DEL 1330 1615 or
TG315 1745 2045 or
9W063 1825 2130

The first pair has 2 3/4 hours between PG204 and IC854, so that doesn't fit. the second pair has 3 3/4 hours between PG906 and TG315, so that is an excellent fit. the third pair has 2 3/4 hours between PG914 and 9W063, so that doesn't fit. It looks like our flight connection is:

PG906 1250 1400 REP BKK
TG315 1745 2045 BKK DEL

Arrival into downtown Delhi would be after 10pm. I am going to guess that they run into an hours of operation restriction fairly quickly.

5/6
Delhi

5/7
Delhi to Dubai nonstop flights:
AI9897 DEL DXB 0745 0945
AI9895 DEL DXB 2000 2155
AI747 DEL DXB 2055 2245

However, some close connections cannot be ruled out:
DEL DOH QR233 0500 0620  connecting to  DOH DXB QR100 0755 1000
DEL AUH 9W582   2100 2335 connecting to AUH DXB 9W7485 0115 0245 (Neobie says this is a bus; I believe him)
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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #87 on: May 09, 2008, 10:07:57 PM »
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LAX GRU UA843 1405 1005+1 with a stop in ORD from 2005 to 2132 (Note: third and last to arrive)

Apskip, this flight is highly unlikely.  Did you read Peach's report on when teams were spotted at ORD walking to board UA flight 843 to Sao Paulo at about 7:45 pm?  You have placed teams on a LAX to ORD flight that does not even arrive to ORD until 8:05 pm.  That is 20 minutes after they were spotted walking in the terminal!  Not possible.

The only valid options are these two flights originally suggested by Neobie back on page 1:
UA 114: 1204 to 1807
UA 116: 1255 to 1855

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #88 on: May 10, 2008, 07:52:06 AM »
Chateau,
You may be right, but you have missed something important. Why would a team select connecting flights when they could be on the plane and flight that is going to Sao Paulo (UA 843)? The very simple probable explanation is that the winds were high and that flight got into Chicago early to account for the sigthing 15 minutes before 8pm.

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #89 on: May 10, 2008, 08:49:35 AM »
Here are the flight possiblities from Santa Cruz Bolivia(VVI) to Santiago Chile(SCL) for 4/29:

Best is the one-stop(Iquique Chile) LAN967 VVI SCL 1205 1725.

Next best but unlikely to happen is if teams were unable to get the second leg of LAN 967 -
LAN967 VVI IQQ 1205 1355
LAN IQQ SCL 365 1920 2230 (one-stop in Antofagasta)

Finally, the least desirable is TACA34 VVI LIM 0805 0900
TACA33 LIM SCL 2100 0205+1 (We've seen this one before in AR11).
« Last Edit: May 11, 2008, 09:33:44 PM by apskip »

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #90 on: May 10, 2008, 09:23:05 AM »
CITIES EASILY REACHABLE FROM SANTA CRUZ

American Airlines - Miami, Dallas, NewYorkJFK
Aerosur - EZE GRU MIA MAD IQT AQP(Arequipa), Asuncion, SLA(Salta)
LAN Ecuador - MIA JFK UIO(Quito) GYE SCL ASU BOG EZE CCS CUZ GRU MAD MEX MVD(Montevideo) GIG
LAN Peru - MIA LAX JFK LIM AQP CIX(Chiclayo) CUZ GYE IQT JUL(Juliaca) MOA(Maldonado) UIO GIG SCL TCG(Tacna) TPG(Targatao) TRU(Trujillo)
LAN Argentina - Salta EZE CCS LIM GYE UIO GRU IGR(Iguassu) SCL ROS(Rosario) RGL (Rio Gallegos) BRO(Bariloche) CRD(Commodoro Rivideria) COR Cordoba FTE El Cafate

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #91 on: May 10, 2008, 10:50:32 AM »
Thanks Apskip!

One thing...we were thinking that PHIL maybe flies out a day early to Santiago on 4/29, leaving the teams at an extended Pitstop.

Teams could still then fly out on 4/30. Looks as though the first of those flights works for Justin's sighting in the airport, but might not work for the arrives in 2 waves thing.

I'll try to reclarify w/him later about exactly where in the airport they were.

And lordie...that's a lot of airport codes to look up! Any chance you can translate as you go for those of us airport code dummies? :nuala:
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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #92 on: May 10, 2008, 12:29:33 PM »
Chateau,
You may be right, but you have missed something important. Why would a team select connecting flights when they could be on the plane and flight that is going to Sao Paulo (UA 843)? The very simple probable explanation is that the winds were high and that flight got into Chicago early to account for the sigthing 15 minutes before 8pm.

No, I didn't miss it.  That is my second point:    :funny:  So, what you mean by 'very simple probable explanation' is that all 4 teams that ChristiaanV saw landed in Chicago some time before 7:45 pm on flight 843, got off their plane at Gate 20, walked around the terminal, turned around, and walked to gate 20 at 7:45 pm , and got back on the plane they just arrived on (flight 843).   :groan:

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*We saw The Hippies, we saw the Blondes in Pink, and we saw what we would describe as two 23-26 year old "Slacker Dudes"
*This guy was with... what we were guessing his mom

What are the chances of that?

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #93 on: May 10, 2008, 09:54:01 PM »
Chateau, pretty good in my estimation.

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #94 on: May 10, 2008, 10:06:18 PM »
CITIES EASILY REACHABLE FROM SANTA CRUZ

American Airlines - Miami, Dallas, NewYorkJFK
Aerosur - EZE GRU MIA MAD IQT AQP(Arequipa), Asuncion, SLA(Salta)
LAN Ecuador - MIA JFK UIO(Quito) GYE SCL ASU BOG EZE CCS CUZ GRU MAD MEX MVD(Montevideo) GIG
LAN Peru - MIA LAX JFK LIM AQP CIX(Chiclayo) CUZ GYE IQT JUL(Juliaca) MOA(Maldonado) UIO GIG SCL TCG(Tacna) TPG(Targatao) TRU(Trujillo)
LAN Argentina - Salta EZE CCS LIM GYE UIO GRU IGR(Iguassu) SCL ROS(Rosario) RGL (Rio Gallegos) BRO(Bariloche) CRD(Commodoro Rivideria) COR Cordoba FTE El Cafate


OK, Peach, so you want airport codes for dummies. Just for you, one time only here they are for the ones not already listed:

EZE Buenos Aires International
GRU Sao Paolo
MIA Miami (also Missing in Action if used on TV or in newspapers)
MAD Madrid
IQT Iquitos, Peru (in the Amazon)
ASU Asuncion, Paraguay
JFK - I think you already know this one
GYE - Guayaquil, Ecauador (its largest city and seaport)
SCL - everyone better know Santiago, Chile by now
BOG - the capital of Colombia, Bogota
CCS - the capital of Venezuela, Caracas
CUZ - Cuzco, the high city of Peru (about 3000 feet above Macchu Picchu's train station)
MEX - the largest metropolitan area is Latin America(barely ahead of Sao Paolo), Mexico City
GIG - Rio de Janeiro
LIM - Lima, the cpaital city of Peru

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #95 on: May 10, 2008, 10:11:47 PM »
Airports By Airport Code .....for dummies :lol: , or just type it into your browser search, thats what I do.

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #96 on: May 10, 2008, 10:34:07 PM »
Thanks guys!  :hugs:

I knew how to find them--it was just doing the whole list at once that had my eyes spinning! :lol:
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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #97 on: May 11, 2008, 09:51:16 AM »
AR13 TIMETABLE - first two legs

Depending on when they arrive at LAX, teams have choices of 3 flight combinations to Sao Paulo:

4/22
LAX DFW AA2446 1250 1740 connecting in Dallas with DFW GRU AA963 1945 0750+1 (Note: first to arrive if on schedule)

LAX MIA AA252 1355 2142 connceting in Miami with MIA GRU 2330 0830+1 (Note: second to arrive if on schedule)

LAX GRU UA843 1405 1005+1 with a stop in ORD from 2005 to 2132 (Note: third and last to arrive)

4/23
This means that the tasks in Sao Paulo will have to take until after noon at the very least and that with a 12 hour pitstop it will be after midnight when teams are released.

4/24
There are numerous 2 1/4 hour nonstop flights from Sao Paulo to Salvador. However, choices are limited to the first 2 daily by virtue of the sighting of teams descending the exterior of the elevator just after 9am on 4/24. Those who were sighted could only be on this flight:

G3 1816 GRU SSA 0410 0625

Later teams could be on G31982 GRU SSA 0735 0950, but they will be quite a bit later to the elevator.


Hey, CHATEAU, the jokes on you! Note the date of this posting and focus on 4/24 GRU (Sao Paulo) to SSA (Salvador).

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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #98 on: May 11, 2008, 11:48:23 AM »
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choices are limited to the first 2 daily ...

This is what is you got wrong.  Name the times!  You don't have two that are valid.
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Re: Timetables and Flight Information
« Reply #99 on: May 11, 2008, 12:24:28 PM »
That said, it is not impossible for TPTB to arrange for an earlier Los Angeles-Chicago flight to mess with our racers' heads! Or an overnight bus to Bahia? :snicker:

I smell burning gasoline! *small voice* Did I venture into Sucks by mistake?

So on the 29th, teams were in La Paz and Phil was leaving Santa Cruz. Is Santa Cruz merely a connection point for Phil to Santiago? (LAN is the only airline flying La Paz OR Santa Cruz to Santiago. Aerosur, LAN Peru and TACA Peru connect La Paz to Santa Cruz. Can't get through to the schedules right now.)



On another note, I've been wondering where the legs fit into South America. What do you guys think?

Premise #1) Seven boats suggest six teams in Cambodia; this means five prior eliminations.
Premise #2) There is likely to be one leg between Santiago and Cambodia. (Reasoning in Post #60.)

1) If both premises hold, there are at least four eliminations in South America.

Premise #3) Teams are checked into Bolivia by the afternoon of the 29th and Phil bails.
Premise #4) Teams depart in the middle of the night of the 29th, and can only leave the country on the 30th.
Premise #5) Santiago airport sightings were at 4-6pm, 30th Apr.

2) No time for an elimination leg between Bolivia and Santiago.

So Santiago is only a connection point for the Far East? But why are the teams dirty and tired? Could there have been a TBC on the 30th?!



Although this is pretty baseless, I've been bothered by the repeat destination of Sao Paulo. Too similar, too soon! Could it very well be the place where teams grab tickets and overnight accomodation, then get shuttled over to Bahia, following the tradition of all previous season premieres (except TAR9, irony huh?). There's still five days to fit in the three following legs:

Leg 1   Los Angeles to Sao Paulo to Salvador   22/23/24/25 April
Leg 2   Salvador to S America   25/26/27 April (speculative end date)
Leg 3   S America to S America   27/28 April (speculative dates)
Leg 4   S America to Bolivia   28/29 April (speculative start date)
Leg 5   Bolivia to Santiago to Auckland to Asia/Oceania
Remote chance of a TBC before Santiago
   29/30 April, 1/2/3 May
Leg 6   Asia/Oceania to Cambodia   3/4/5 May
Leg 7   Cambodia to Delhi   5/6/7 May
Leg 8   Delhi to Dubai   7 May onwards
« Last Edit: May 16, 2008, 11:10:14 AM by Neobie »
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