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« Reply #675 on: June 14, 2008, 10:58:56 PM »
Here are some pics of headdresses:
And a video:
And some info on the various dances:
http://www.madison.com/communities/boliviamanta/pages/Dances.php?php_page_set=0 Tobas: Originating from the Amazonian lowlands of Bolivia; the dance commemorates the clashes between Incan and Amazonian warriors. Tobas is noted for their spectacular masks, costumes and feather headdresses. The dance consist of jumping rhythmically to the sound of drums.
Morenada The origin of the morenada goes back to the employment of black slaves in colonial Potosi, where the miners to replace the indigenous mitayos (pawns) bought them. A satiric dance whose steps mimics the movement of the slaves that squashed grapes to make wine in colonial times. The male dancers wear a cape artistically embroidered with geometrical shapes and stones,along with a hat made of metal adorned with ostritch feathers, a curly wig, a mask with a thick lower lip.
And a neat blog about the dances:
The festival was at once the most entertaining, bizarre, disturbing and moving pageantry I have ever witnessed - this despite the repetitiveness of the music. It was entertaining because of the variety of costumes and dance. Bizarre because of the vehicles in the parade which were adorned with jewels, coins and silver service. Disturbing because of the extent that real feathers were used as part of the costumes, and moving because of the pageantry that took place in a cathedral that was part of the first evening's events. The most famous of the Diablada dances is "La Morenada" which is a re-enactment of the dance of the African slaves. When I heard the steady clomp of wooden shoes with spurs coming down the street sounding eerily like the chains the slaves had to wear during their years of servitude in this part of the world, it sent chills down my spine. I got into a few conversations with English-speaking performers behind the scenes who were wearing natural feathered headdresses, some cascading to the ground. We discussed the use of these feathers as part of their costumes and what it meant to the wildlife in their jungles. All agreed that this extravagance couldn't continue much longer. The afternoon of the first day of the parade I followed the route to the end, curious as to what scene I would find there as the participants finished their performances. At the top of a hill in an open square I watched as performers, one-by-one, remove their head covers and masks, hats, plums, and then disappear into a large cathedral. I was not prepared for the spectacle I was about to encounter inside the edifice. It was as if the church silenced the brass band that accompanied them. The silence was deafening. All had made their way to the front of the altar where a priest in full dress was blessing them en mass as they kneeled. I stood transfixed, looking out from the side of the altar at a sea of costumed mestizos and Indians. Their feathered headdresses and devil's masks were cradled in their arms. Their spears were standing tall against the vaulted ceilings. Following the brief ceremony, the brass band started playing again and continued while they approached the altar. Each person kneeled on the altar platform and slowly shuffled along it on their knees while solemnly gazing at the painting of the Virgin above. I can still see devil's masks moving slowly along the altar in the arms of the bearer while he or she gave reverence to the Virgin. I left the cathedral that evening impressed with the degree that these people were moved spiritually. The next day this ceremony wasn't repeated. Nor was it the following Saturday at the next carnival I attended in nearby Cochabamba. I asked a dancer there why I had experienced this spiritual outpouring at the Oruro event and not at the Cochabamba one (which I observed to be more homespun). She said, 'The dancers in Oruro were dancing for the Virgin, the ones in Cochabamba were dancing for the Carnival'. I accepted the fact that I could only understand this difference by immersing myself deeper into Bolivia's rich culture. All day and into each of the two nights parading brass bands blasted out the dynamic morenada music. Early in the morning of the second day Muriel, Stef and I attached ourselves to a dance group and snaked our way with them through town. As we moved along more and more people joined us, all dancing in rows arm-in-arm. An inclusive thought prevailed with this activity and nobody was considered an outsider. We all laughed and cajoled together at the end three hours later before parting ways. It made me realize how welcome a person could feel at this event even if they were alone.
http://www.hostels.com/en/tt/merrileecarnival.html Wonder if one of our detours is bikes and one is dance Ala Kynt in Vinci last time?
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« Reply #676 on: June 14, 2008, 11:32:59 PM »
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« Reply #677 on: June 15, 2008, 12:11:16 AM »
Arch at Monticulo
At the upper end of a cobblestone street, it is a lover’s park with baroque colonnades and the stanzas of a tango to Mount Illimani inscribed on four rocks along the entrance path. From El Montículo, it is possible to see the distant, upper limits of the city, where streets abrupt into sheer cliff faces which, when it rains, crumble into the lower precincts of the neighborhood appropriately called Tembladerani
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« Reply #678 on: June 15, 2008, 12:33:38 AM »
Plaza Abaroa
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« Reply #679 on: June 15, 2008, 11:11:53 AM »
Thank you peach! Always nice to get a confirmation on the date and more details
and thank you C&W, "Trucha Libre" for answering our questions.
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« Reply #680 on: June 15, 2008, 02:08:47 PM »
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« Reply #681 on: June 15, 2008, 06:14:31 PM »
I'm trying to sort out where which activity she saw is most likely to have been. From C&W's apartment shots (see page 9, this thread) I had ID'd which building they were in. At one point in the C&W blog they say: "The day we took possession of our apartment we were crossing the park in front of our building and noticed a lot of people and some really weird all wood bicycles." Neither the Plaza Abaroa or the Monticulo is 'in front' of their building. But being on an upper floor of a 16 story building does tend to widen one's sphere of surroundings. Here is a GE capture that shows the building, Plaza Abaroa, and the Monticulo. Because the building's front entrance is only 285 feet from the Plaza I bet that is their 'park'. Plus, she also just says it out right: "They were in Plaza Abaroa (sometime called Plaza Avaroa)"
So the 'Wooden Roller/Wooden Dancer' task (go ahead, call it a Detour!) takes place in the Plaza Abaroa.
Now she also gives us this: "we also noticed a lot of commotions and
big tv lighting in the parc of the Monticulo"
This spells
Pit Stop mat to me. It also clues us in on when the leg was expected to end.
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« Reply #682 on: June 17, 2008, 05:52:10 PM »
Anyone knows the country's in The Amazing Race 13? I have read Brazil, Bolivia, Cambodia and India at this site!!!!
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« Reply #683 on: June 17, 2008, 05:55:35 PM »
Add New Zealand to your list. Add Russia to your list. What are believed now to be transit points only are in Santiago Chile, Bangkok Thailand, Dubai UAE, and Frankfurt Germany. If you want the details in timetable form, consult the Timetables and Flight Information thread.
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« Reply #684 on: June 17, 2008, 05:57:31 PM »
Anyone knows the country's in The Amazing Race 13? I have read Brazil, Bolivia, Cambodia and India at this site!!!!
Hi there, Apskip is right, or you can go here and find puddin's summary which is also helpful.
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15483.msg303377.html#msg303377
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« Reply #685 on: June 19, 2008, 06:26:43 AM »
I got some more confirmation from a couple of local industry sorts... In case there was still any doubt I am not 100% certain the TAR filmed in New Zealand. From my understanding of the timings there has been a series of TAR Asia filming with some overlapping time, so possibly some sightings that don't fit in may have been the Asia show?
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« Reply #686 on: June 19, 2008, 07:35:08 AM »
Selwyn; It is has been certain for weeks that AR13 teams arrived around 4am on May 2 in and departed from New Zealand the afternoon of May 3, both from Auckland airport. what is not known is where they went in between. The best bet is the Tauranga and Mt. Manganui area. If you want to help, focus some effort there to track them down.
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« Reply #687 on: June 19, 2008, 11:27:15 AM »
I got some more confirmation from a couple of local industry sorts... In case there was still any doubt I am not 100% certain the TAR filmed in New Zealand. From my understanding of the timings there has been a series of TAR Asia filming with some overlapping time, so possibly some sightings that don't fit in may have been the Asia show?
selwyn, we have evidence that the Asian version started filming around May 17th/18th
posted here as well as some production photos for the USA version with other evidence all
gathered here . So with that we have no doubts what your industry friends worked on was indeed TAR13.
Please let us know if you hear anything else selwyn and again thank you
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« Reply #688 on: June 19, 2008, 04:01:00 PM »
the Tauranga Mt. Manganui area I live there as I have said, so why dont you think that the NZ Episode could just have stayed in Auckland thus counting the Skytower... I just would hate to think they came straight through Tauranga without me knowing it!
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« Reply #689 on: June 19, 2008, 04:27:54 PM »
the Tauranga Mt. Manganui area I live there as I have said, so why dont you think that the NZ Episode could just have stayed in Auckland thus counting the Skytower... I just would hate to think they came straight through Tauranga without me knowing it!
Hi, this is completely unconfirmed and comes to me third hand but my mother was listening to a talk show on the radio yesterday here in NZ and there was a woman from Tauranga on who said that a reality show had been through there-well, the Tauranga-Mount Maunganui area (in the North Island, not far from Auckland). I asked my mother if the woman had said when and she said no but she got the impression listening that it was in the last month. I know this is very unreliable so please treat it with a grain of salt!!
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« Reply #690 on: June 21, 2008, 09:32:49 PM »
Fortaleza City Ceará ? Yeah! that's right!!
This came to me in a round about way thanks to our Rob here that forwarded me an email from a very nice Fortaleza local named Nivaldo who found our site and wanted to help
Much thanks to our friend Nivaldo
Hi, I'm Nivaldo I'm a painter, I was hired to take part and do to something in amazing race 13.
It was in Fortaleza City Ceará state Brazil.
I really liked to participate in the reality show. I knew Phil and his team and I helped him too because it was raining so much.
I participate as a painter and gave one envelope to each team. You will know that I'm not lying.
You will see my blue uniform.
I painted the letters on the wall because the challenge was to read it all in Portuguese and find the key phrase.
The key phrase was: Cidade Da Crianca (its a place in Fortaleza downtown like a big square where the teams need to take a taxi and run to that place to do another challenge, but before they needed to tell me the key and I gave them the envelope.
Im having difficulty explaining all the details because Im just learning English and am not good, excuse my mistakes.
I took the picture on April 23rd but they filmed on April 25 in the morning and finished about 2:00pm because I needed to paint it 2 days before and paid me to participate in the filming too.
I never heard of Amazing Race before and they tried to do everything in secret, but during the filming I dressed in a blue painter uniform with some brushes and the teams arrived in a taxi, took the envelope in a red box, I dont remember what they called that, and they need to find the painter (me) and one of the couple needed to stay beside me and the other run and read all the phases to find the key, he or she ran to tell me the key. That place is located in Metropolitan area of Fortaleza City in a place called Iparana Caucaia city near Forrtaleza the capital of Ceara state.
A farm called Parque De Vaquejada A Ze Gerardo, the place where they do rodeos but, they filmed outside this place, not inside.
Im trying to remember all the details
I recall 10 teams.
You can see a picture
I took the picture exactly in the place with this guy called Mike and he worked on the Amazing Race team. You can see the date too.
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« Reply #692 on: June 21, 2008, 10:12:57 PM »
Thanks Puddin (and Rob and Nivaldo)! The whiteboard is starting to make a little more sense.
Iparana .
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« Reply #693 on: June 21, 2008, 10:28:34 PM »
Slowhatch, I'm still curious about Lisbon .........why would a field producer have anything to do with sequester? So?
Leg Two might be in our hands, guys... Following the whiteboard for the 24th, JJ 8006 for Paolo Olivier comes in from Fortaleza. (That gives the 5.45pm timing.) Now with the "BC" mystery solved by Chateau, we know "Bas Pot" leaves Salvador on JJ 8003. That flies from Buenos Aires, to Sao Paulo, to Salvador, to Fortaleza . In other news, JJ 3179 for Giselle and JJ 3173 for Erin go back to Sao Paulo. TAP 156 for Darren Bunkley goes to Lisbon. (Lisbon? Portugal? Sequesterville?) What do you guys make of this?
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« Reply #694 on: June 21, 2008, 10:49:38 PM »
Neobie's guess makes sense. Don't eliminated teams need a "minder" on their trip to Sequesterville? And since the start of "elimination station," an on-site field producer has probably been needed.
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« Reply #695 on: June 21, 2008, 11:06:49 PM »
Neobie's guess makes sense. Don't eliminated teams need a "minder" on their trip to Sequesterville? And since the start of "elimination station," an on-site field producer has probably been needed.
Probably I'm over thinking it
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« Reply #696 on: June 22, 2008, 03:23:16 AM »
Wow! Nivaldo!
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and your English is great!
May we ask more questions?
What is the address of the wall?
What did they film at the farm?
Did you see an older couple that looked like hippies--she had long white hair??
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« Reply #697 on: June 22, 2008, 03:24:09 AM »
Heading off to Timeline spec with some questions!
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« Reply #698 on: June 22, 2008, 10:03:21 AM »
Neobie's guess makes sense. Don't eliminated teams need a "minder" on their trip to Sequesterville? And since the start of "elimination station," an on-site field producer has probably been needed.
if thats the case im suprised they guy they hired for season12 isnt back
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« Reply #699 on: June 22, 2008, 12:54:33 PM »
Wow! Nivaldo!
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and your English is great!
May we ask more questions?
What is the address of the wall?
What did they film at the farm?
Did you see an older couple that looked like hippies--she had long white hair??
Nivaldo says that he will go out to the wall at the "farm" to take some pictures of where he painted the wall as well as details tomorrow.
Also he was hired through the yellow pages through an agency that worked for TAR and stayed at the Grand Marquise Hotel in Fortaleza if that helps?
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