The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)

[Mrs Shrek]

So come on Detectives! Find that building! 

Are there other pictures in the series which might have a readable view of a car licence plate? Could be a bit faster to trace than the building?

[puddin]

Got it peach ........
Cosmos–Zoloto , I don't think Moscow is a match so must be this one ~  St. Petersburg, Nevskiy avenue, 22\24 (yet to find a picture  )

 

[puddin]

The lights in St Petes work for me

 

 

[georgiapeach]

Damn she's good! How'd you do that? And so fast too!

So okay then...our photogs are in St Pete on the 14th which tells us...exactly nothing!

Okay...moving on to the next trick up my sleeve!

[Mrs Shrek]

So okay then...our photogs are in St Pete on the 14th which tells us...exactly nothing!

Speculating here, but Russia isn't exactly known for being safe for wandering tourists at night time. I have looked at a website here listing the direct trains from Moscow to St Petersburg and they are all night trains with a large majority arriving very late in the evening, or early morning (it's a 700km approx 5 hour trip), and so it is quite possible that the night time pic of the soccer celebrations was taken while travelling from the train station when first arriving in St Petersburg.

[puddin]

You all can help me look for photos dated May 11th thru the 13th of the All-Russia Exhibition Centre.

I found one that says it was taken on May12th and it rained  

[georgiapeach]

Oh no! Poor Chateau!

I still like the 13th for some unknown reason...

Wish I could stay and play! 

[apskip]

It should be noted that there was a connecting flight from St. Petersburg to Frankfurt on the morning of May 14. It is LH3221, departing LED at 0615  and arriving FRA 0710 in ample time for the connection there for LH468 to Portland.

St. Petersburg is a pretty neat place to visit. the only previous Amazing Race visit there was in AR5 when the infamous caviar eating contest(2 kg = 4.4 pounds) occurred in a suburb.

I like the idea of St. Petersburg as the penultimate leg, but right now there is not enough evidence to prove it.

[Neobie]

I love the Kremlin clock, and the EXIF data trick! (Thanks again Puddin!)

Further down the same album (the one with rain on the "12th"), we see a Kremlin clock at 3.47pm, while the camera clock declares 7.49am. That means the camera clock was last set to EDT or AST, eight hours behind Moscow Summer Time. (Well that's assuming that people set their clocks to the correct date, but it's not that big a stretch...)



Following that train of thought, we can safely declare the rainy shot to be taken at 11.41am, May 13th!

Somehow when you open up the EXIF data for that shot it says 3.43am on the 13th. Hmmph. Go figure.

In other news, there was no overtime for the UEFA Cup finals, so starting at 7.45pm Manchester time, the results would have been declared at 12.35am, 15th May, St Petersburg time. (Add five minutes for injury time that match.) Not that it means anything...

[Chateau d If]

Neobie, you are a wizard!  Thank you.  Thank you.

How the hell did you get Exif data from that picture.  Nothing shows up for me.   

[Chateau d If]

Now I see where your 11:41 is coming from!   

I got the Exif now.    

Exif says:  3:43 am May 13th.
Add 8 hours to get 11:43 am May 13th.

And Weather Underground comes through again.     They have rain in Moscow from 10:30 to 11:30 am

[Boingo]

Got it peach ........
Cosmos–Zoloto , I don't think Moscow is a match so must be this one ~  St. Petersburg, Nevskiy avenue, 22\24 )

Good job, puddin.   

 :sucks

[georgiapeach]

It should be noted that there was a connecting flight from St. Petersburg to Frankfurt on the morning of May 14. It is LH3221, departing LED at 0615  and arriving FRA 0710 in ample time for the connection there for LH468 to Portland.

St. Petersburg is a pretty neat place to visit. the only previous Amazing Race visit there was in AR5 when the infamous caviar eating contest(2 kg = 4.4 pounds) occurred in a suburb.

I like the idea of St. Petersburg as the penultimate leg, but right now there is not enough evidence to prove it.

I think I may have confused the issue! 

You are right in saying that we have no evidence for St Pete...the photographer of the Pitstop went on to St Pete, but of course that has nothing to do w/ us...I just wanted to get some dates out there. Sorry about that!

[Chateau d If]

Aww, come on Peach.  I want to see that Battleship again.   

[georgiapeach]

Good job guys! So May 13th fits rain-wise??    I really want Moscow to be the last stop so we can have 2 more "someplace new" to go after Delhi!

And Boingo, you crack me up!   Phil indeed...

[georgiapeach]

Aww, come on Peach.  I want to see that Battleship again.  

 

[puddin]

okay , what do you all think? 

Reading the terms again

INTERNATIONAL SALON OF SAFETY AND SECURITY SYSTEMS AND EQUIPMENT
“INTEGRATED SAFETY AND SECURITY 2008”
14 – 18 May 2008

General Terms of Participation

*Build-up time: 

May 11 – 13, 2008 from 09.00 till 19.00

*Exhibits shall be brought to the pavilion (outdoor exhibition ground) on May 13, 2008 from 08.00 till 17.00. On May 13, 2008  Exhibitor’s representative should stay at the booth till 20.00.
Exhibits can’t be transferred to other exhibition spaces without preliminary permit of the Exhibition Directorate. Change or transfer of the exhibits shall be made within an hour before the Exhibition opening or after the Exhibition closing.  The Exhibits shall not be taken away from the Exhibition without written permit of the Exhibition Directorate until its closing date and hours.

*General 24-hours guarding of the Exhibition is included in cost of participation. The exhibition is guarded from 20.00 on May 13, 2008 till 18.00 on May 18, 2008. Guarding of the Exhibition is fulfilled at night from 18.30 till 09.00. In case of theft of or damage to exhibits found the Participant should immediately apply to the police (militia) station of the All-Russia Exhibition Center.

[georgiapeach]

Okay, I do an "exhibition" monthly, and that pretty much reads to me as:

Bring it in on the 13th during those hours--not before, not after...

So if the boat is an "exhibit" which seems reasonable (as well as the fire trucks etc), then I'd say we have our date!

Can't be after the 13th because we know they are heading to Portland, can't be before because there were no exhibits in place...

And then there are those rain puddles!

[Chateau d If]

That is very good evidence.   

Here is a little thing to check out:  Form other shots taken on the 13th I noticed that there is very little exhibit material or people in region that would become the mat's background behind Phil.  I wonder if production was able to hold back the placement of the exhibit vehicles until the checkins were over.  Just to keep the shot looking more monumental and less trade-fairish.

Do other shots of the exhibit after May 13th show vehicles in that area?

[puddin]

That is very good evidence.  

Here is a little thing to check out:  Form other shots taken on the 13th I noticed that there is very little exhibit material or people in region that would become the mat's background behind Phil.  I wonder if production was able to hold back the placement of the exhibit vehicles until the checkins were over.  Just to keep the shot looking more monumental and less trade-fairish.

Do other shots of the exhibit after May 13th show vehicles in that area?

Heres the map of the exhibit, we are looking at area 4? Again photos here .

I'll try to dig up more tourists pictures 

[Chateau d If]

Thanks Puddin.  I think we have the Mat in area 2 on your map.

[puddin]

Gosh there just are no pictures out there!! Heres one of the bus(s)

adding these
http://www.isse-russia.ru/site.xp/057057051.html
http://www.isse-russia.ru/site.xp/057057052.html

[georgiapeach]

Forget the bus!

I want the little whirley toy!! 

[puddin]

You take the Gyro and I'll take Phil  :sucks

[Kiwi Jay]

save the fighting for later gals