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Yes, he was in Uganda, but, he was in exile in Kenya. Uganda is considered unsafe, Kenya is considered relatively safe which is why I chose it over Amin's native country.
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Ok, maybe I should reconsider that safe part for Kenya. From the Department of State:

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KENYA

November 14, 2008

The U.S. Department of State warns U.S. citizens of the risks of travel to Kenya.  American citizens in Kenya and those considering travel to Kenya should evaluate their personal security situation in light of continuing threats from terrorism and the high rate of violent crime.  This replaces the Travel Warning of August 22, 2008, to note increased security concerns in northeast Kenya near the Somali border.

The U.S. Government continues to receive indications of potential terrorist threats aimed at American, Western, and Kenyan interests in Kenya.  Terrorist acts could include suicide operations, bombings, kidnappings, attacks on civil aviation, and attacks on maritime vessels in or near Kenyan ports.  Many of those responsible for the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in 1998 and on a hotel in Mombasa in 2002 remain at large and continue to operate in the region.  In November 2008, armed groups based in Somalia crossed into Kenya near the town of El Wak and kidnapped two Westerners.  Travel by U.S. Embassy personnel to border areas of Kenya northeast of the town of Wajir has been restricted until further notice.

Violent and sometimes fatal criminal attacks, including armed carjackings and home invasions/burglaries, can occur at any time and in any location, particularly in Nairobi.  As recently as June 2008, U.S. Embassy personnel were victims of carjackings.  In the short-term, the continued displacement of thousands of people by the recent civil unrest combined with endemic poverty and the availability of weapons could result in an increase in crime, both petty and violent.  Kenyan authorities have limited capacity to deter or investigate such acts or prosecute perpetrators.

American citizens in Kenya should be extremely vigilant, particularly in public places frequented by foreigners such as clubs, hotels, resorts, upscale shopping centers, restaurants, and places of worship.  Americans should also remain alert in residential areas, schools, and at outdoor recreational events, and should avoid demonstrations and large crowds.

Americans who travel to or reside in Kenya are encouraged to register through the State Department’s travel registration website, https://travelregistration.state.gov.  By registering, American citizens make it easier for the Embassy to contact them in case of emergency.  Americans without Internet access may register directly with the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi.  The U.S. Embassy is located on United Nations Avenue, Gigiri, Nairobi, Kenya; telephone (254) (20) 363-6000; fax (254) (20) 363-6410.  In the event of an after-hours emergency, the Embassy duty officer may be contacted at (254) (20) 363-6170.  The Embassy home page is http://kenya.usembassy.gov.

Updated information on travel and security in Kenya may be obtained from the Department of State by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll free in the United States and Canada, or for callers outside the United States and Canada, a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444.  For further information, please consult the Country Specific Information for Kenya and the Worldwide Caution, which are available on the Bureau of Consular Affairs Internet website at http://travel.state.gov.

Source - http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_923.html
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I'll have to reconsider that Kenyan leg.  :lol: :lol:

Maybe another leg in South America or perhaps to the former Czechoslovakia.
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I'll have to reconsider that Kenyan leg.  :lol: :lol:

Maybe another leg in South America or perhaps to the former Czechoslovakia.
I don't think Uganda is too terribly unsafe though. There ar ecertain areas which should be avoided but if the teams went through the countryside I don't think it'd be that bad. From Wikitravel:

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Uganda has been home to some of the more gruesome atrocities in modern African history since its independence in 1962, particularly under the heinous dictator Idi Amin, but in the years since 1987 things have consistently improved. Today, in 2009, the single party state is relatively stable after 25 years of stereotypically 'strong man' rule by Yoweri Museveni. Kampala has changed into a major center of East African trade.

Travel north to Murchison Falls National Park and Ajai Game Reserve is perfectly safe. Note that overlanders from Tanzania and Kenya regularly make the trip routing through [[Jinja.

As in any urban area, Kampala can be dodgy. One is well advised to remain in tourist areas, but sensibly garbed visitors not dangling the latest cameras, flashy jewellery or bulging bags are not likely to draw unwanted attention to themselves. However, any Caucasians walking in the street stand out and are likely to be stared at openly, which may cause discomfort to those unaccustomed to travelling in Africa. What little begging exists is some of the most polite and inoffensive to be found in African cities. Small children are sadly becoming a nuisance in some rural spots frequented by tourists doling out sweets and coins, but nowhere near the swarming throng one can attract in many cities around the world.

In the gorilla tracking region of the Bwindi Impenetrable Forest National Park near the border with the DRC there was one incident in the late 1990's in which bandits attacked a group of tourists and killed several people. Since then there have been no incidents and all groups now go out with armed guards (which was not the case before). There is a visible security presence in the region, but this is a preventative measure rather than a response to anything specific.
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Based on this wishlist, I will do another for the worst despots in history.

Start - Chicago, IL (some say the late Richard Daley was a despot) :lol:
Leg 1 - Port-au-Prince, Haiti (for Jean Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier)
Leg 2 - Santiago, Chile (for Augusto Pinochet)
Leg 3 - Nairobi, Kenya (for "Big Daddy" Idi Amin)
Leg 4 - Soweto, South Africa (for P.W. Botha)
Leg 5 - Buchraest, Romania (for Nicolae Ceausescu)
Leg 6 - Zagreb, Croatia (for Josef Tito of the former Republic of Yugoslavia)
Leg 7 - Volgograd, Russia (formerly Stalingrad for Joseph Stalin)
Leg 8 - Phnom Penh, Cambodia (for Pol Pot)
Leg 9 - Manila, Philippines (for Ferdinand Marcos)
Leg 10 - Taipei, Taiwan (for Chiang Kai-shek, the Butcher of Taiwan)
Leg 11 - New York, NY (for Boss Tweed) :lol:
Reworking this now. I've got it.

Start - Chicago, IL (some say the late Richard Daley was a despot) :lol:
Leg 1 - Port-au-Prince, Haiti (for Jean Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier)
Leg 2 - Santiago, Chile (for Augusto Pinochet)
Leg 3 - Asuncion, Paraguay (for Alfredo Stroessner)
Leg 4 - Soweto, South Africa (for P.W. Botha)
Leg 5 - Buchraest, Romania (for Nicolae Ceausescu)
Leg 6 - Zagreb, Croatia (for Josef Tito of the former Republic of Yugoslavia)
Leg 7 - Volgograd, Russia (formerly Stalingrad for Joseph Stalin)
Leg 8 - Phnom Penh, Cambodia (for Pol Pot)
Leg 9 - Manila, Philippines (for Ferdinand Marcos)
Leg 10 - Taipei, Taiwan (for Chiang Kai-shek, the Butcher of Taiwan)
Leg 11 - New York, NY (for Boss Tweed) :lol:

There you go. That works now.
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I'll have to reconsider that Kenyan leg.  :lol: :lol:

Maybe another leg in South America or perhaps to the former Czechoslovakia.
Czech Republic and Slovakia are awesome, but to travel between them in night trains is a little bit dangerous, still it would be nice to see these places in normal TAR
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Dr. Rox, although Stalin was from Georgia, his focus was the entire Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The centerpoint of governement for the U.S. S.R. was clearly Moscow, its capital. Just because Volgograd was renamed in Stalin's honor (by Stalin himself in 1925) and was later renamed back to the original name does not mean that he had any special relationship to Volgograd. As best I can tell, he did not other than during the battle of Stalingrad where he as the leader of the Soviet military took a personal interest in Stalingrad's survival.

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It was like George Washington deciding to have his birthday be a national holiday for no reason. Stalin did the same with Stalingrad.
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my choices for TAR 15:
Leg 1: San Jose, U.S.A. to Sapporo, Japan
Leg 2: Sapporo to Hiroshima, Japan
Leg 3: Hiroshima, Japan to Melbourne, Australia
Leg 4: Melbourne, Australia to Bali, Indonesia
Leg 5: Bali to Jakarta, Indonesia
Leg 6: Jakarta, Indonesia to Bangalore, India
Leg 7: Bangalore to Hyderabad, India
Leg 8: Hyderabad, India to Doha, Qatar
Leg 9 pt. 1: Doha, Qatar to Espoo, Finland
Leg 9 pt. 2: Espoo, Finland to Tallinn, Estonia
Leg 10: Tallinn, Estonia to Lyon, France
Leg 11: Lyon, France to Monte Carlo, Monaco
Leg 12: Monaco to Boston, U.S.A.

i know, i know, TWO LEGS IN INDIA  :groan:

but at least they are two new cities...

and San Jo just to see my hometown (and place of residence...) in at least one race


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Other places I'd really like to see soon:
Bahamas
Trinidad/Venezuela
Colombia
Paraguay
more of Ecuador (Guayaquil/Galapagos)
same with Peru (like Iquitos and the amazon region)
and Brazil too (Manaus, Brasilia, Recife...)

Angola
Congo/Congo DR
Nigeria
Mali
Ghana
Gambia

more Spain
you could never have enough Italy (Naples/Bari, Trieste)
Bulgaria
Czech Rep.
Montenegro/Serbia
Belgium/Luxembourg
Denmark

Asian portion of Turkey
Israel/Jordan
Armenia (not in same race as Azerbaijan)
Azerbaijan (not in same race as Armenia)
Bahrain
Uzbekistan
Nepal/Tibet
Bangladesh
Brunei
Indonesia
more Korea (North or South)

Fiji
Tahiti
Samoa
Papua New Guinea

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I just hope that TAR 15 has no China, India, Thailand or Russia. Those places are seriously overused.

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I just hope that TAR 15 has no China, India, Thailand or Russia. Those places are seriously overused.
But India is the place where we always get the first Speedbump :P
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I just hope that TAR 15 has no China, India, Thailand or Russia. Those places are seriously overused.
But India is the place where we always get the first Speedbump :P

For 3 consecutive seasons i believe? Let it have a change then...

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I just hope that TAR 15 has no China, India, Thailand or Russia. Those places are seriously overused.
But India is the place where we always get the first Speedbump :P
I have a gut feel that Kolkata's next in line again at the "TAR'S yearly pilgrimage to India"... I want them to go to Bangladesh though, or Guangzhou China or even Xiamen or Shanghai... though Thailand's overrated as well as Russia already...
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Mooyou(thanks for the tip on m error),
The fact is that Kolkata has been used before. Sure, as a huge urban center in India the amazing Race could get stunning sights on camera. However, these huge Indian cities have never been on an amazing Race and deserve to before any other city repeats:

Bangalore
Hyderabad
Goa (a small state, not a large city)
Ahmadabad
Shimla (a tourist area formerly known as Simla, not urban)
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cdfe88,
The fact is that Kolkata has been used before. Sure, as a huge urban center in India the amazing Race could get stunning sights on camera. However, these huge Indian cities have never been on an amazing Race and deserve to before any other city repeats:

Bangalore
Hyderabad
Goa (a small state, not a large city)
Ahmadabad
Shimla (a tourist area formerly known as Simla, not urban)

Hi Apskip! It's me and not cdfe88 who thought of Kolkata ^_^

If were talking about India, I'm thinking of Amritsar, in Punjab the near Pakistan border and where the Sikhs are could actually be a good place...  :lol:
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Mooyou,
I thought about Amritsar and it is reputed to be beautiful. Unfortunately, there is a lot of violence in that area due to the proximity of the Pakistani border.

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Mooyou,
I thought about Amritsar and it is reputed to be beautiful. Unfortunately, there is a lot of violence in that area due to the proximity of the Pakistani border.

I hate it when all of those beautiful locations are barred because of wars, pandemic flu seasons, etc... Oh well... I guess there should be extra effort for TAR to find new locations as well as better tasks especially the next season...
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hey what about Myanmar (Burma)?

there's a couple good locations, like Yangon and Mandalay

or is it considered an unsafe country by the U.S. department of whatever its called...?

i'd look it up myself, but i lost the link to the site that marks countries safe to travel to or not, and as you can tell i have no idea what that department is... is it the department of safety?

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Myanmar is considered unsafe. In fact, the U.S. Department of State discourages all travel there.
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I agree that the yield/u-turn should be on each leg as it was in the first few seasons.
If cost is an issue we can continue to have only 2 u-turns and the others to be yields
as they are inexpensive. When this is reintroduced I would like to suggest two other
twists that can also be interchangeable with the yield.

1. GIVE WAY - One team can choose to make another team behind them 'give-way.' This
means that team must let all other teams pass them before resuming the race. The catch
is that the team that uses it is marked for elimination (they must arrive first at the pitstop or
incur a 30 minute penalty). There is a huge amount of risk involved but if the team that uses
it can maintain a first place position throughout the leg, they will greatly slow down the team
of their choice.

2. NO RIGHT TURN - One team can choose the detour for any team behind them. This means
that when that team reaches the 'no right turn' marker which also has the detour clue box next
to it, must complete the detour that is chosen for them. The team that uses must try to chose the
detour they believe will be the hardest for the other team to complete.


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If I was BVM, I would make the race like this:

LEG 1: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania --> Addis Ababa, Ethiopia
LEG 2: Addis Ababa, Ethiopia --> Khartoum, Sudan - U-Turn
LEG 3: Khartoum, Sudan --> Manchester, England - Fast Forward
LEG 4: Manchester, England --> Athens, Greece - Non-Elimination Leg
LEG 5: Athens, Greece
LEG 6: Athens, Greece --> Lyon, France
LEG 7: Lyon, France --> Istanbul, Turkey  - Non-Elimination Leg
LEG 8: Istanbul, Turkey --> Colombo, Sri Lanka --> Penang, Malaysia
LEG 9: Penang, Malaysia --> Jakarta, Indonesia - Non-Elimination Leg
LEG 9: Jakarta, Indonesia --> Bali, Indonesia
LEG 10: Bali, Indonesia --> Apia, Samoa - - Fast Forward - U-Turn
LEG 11: Apia, Samoa --> Talca, Chile
LEG 12: Talca, Chile --> San Jose, California

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Baydogg,

Don't you think that Sudan would be way to dangerous?
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I want to see a race death!!!!!! LOL.
Whats a race without a bit of risk. Anywhere
in Africa is dodgy...no offense.

E.g. Brandon and Nicole, Season 7. Nicole gets slapped in the face by African bus driver and
they get charged 100USD when another team pays 3USD.


 

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