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« on: February 11, 2008, 09:13:35 AM »
Okay we have been shown some alliances.  In the past many early alliances do not last.  Do we think they will last this time?

Survivor: Micronesia - Joel and Alexis Alliance

Thanks Puddin for the video . . . do we think we see this because they last or because one betrays the other


Ozzy/Amanda/Pav/James  This is a strong alliance if the Favs can win some immunities and get down farther.  But it is only day 3 will it hold up?

Ami/Jonathon/Eliza/yau  This is an odd alliance, but could be strong if they pull in Cirie.

Problem I see with the Favs, is they have already split and this could effect them down the road in not working with each other.  Plus why did no one talk to Cirie?

I thougth i would start this so we could analyze some of these alliance we see popping up.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2008, 01:37:43 PM by Texan »

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Re: Allainces
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2008, 04:41:05 PM »
heres what JFP has to say~

Even for the few days he was out there, Fairplay could have had a big impact on the Favorites' Malakal tribe, which had split into two four-person alliances:  Ozzy Lusth, Amanda Kimmel, Parvati Shallow and James Clement versus Chan, Penner, Amy Cusack and Eliza Orlins.

"Going in, right off the bat, I had an immediate alliance with Yau-Man, Jonathan and Eliza," said Fairplay.  "Jonathan and Yau-Man, they're all business when they go out there.  They're not willing to have fun -- that's not what they're there for.  So right off the bat, I'm just like, 'Ugh!  Do I really want to live 39 days with these guys?'  Strategically, they play the same game as I do.  But at the same time, I'm not having fun with these guys... And Amy and I became very close, and Eliza and I were friends."

While Fairplay said he was initially targeting Lusth, the two "became really good friends even though I had the biggest target on him at the beginning" -- and he eventually turned his attention to Shallow.

"I was going to go after Parvati first to break-up that strong four," he explained.  "Then go to Ozzy afterwards and be like, 'Look, nothing personal.  You four together is just too much power in one group.  Here's the deal: me, you, Amy and Eliza.  Bam.  Let's do this.'  And I think it would have worked great."
But Fairplay eventually wanted out, and instead decided to give Lusth some strategic insight to go along with his already impressive physique.

"I like the kid.  I liked him a lot," said Fairplay.  "Before that Tribal Council, I pulled Ozzy aside for about 30 minutes.  It's very emotional you know, we're both in tears.  He's like, 'Don't do this!'  I'm like, 'You know I have to.'  And I was like, 'But look, here's the deal.  Here's the alliances.  Here's the pecking order.  Here's who they're coming after, here's who you should go after in what order.'  I was like, 'Ozzy I like you, but at the same time I think your social game is lacking.  When you do go out and go fishing or go diving for clams and you do take out the boat, bring three people with you.  That hour that you're gone doing that, those people are talking about you.  If they're there with you, they're not talking about you because you're there.  Number two, they see firsthand how valuable you are.'"

"So essentially I told him -- this is the exact quote, 'Here's the keys to the car kid.  Don't wreck it.'"

Fairplay, however, apparently wanted no part of Malakal's tenth member Cirie Fields because her strategy reminded him too much of Pearl Islands' winner Sandra Diaz-Twine.

"Cirie is a Sandra-type player.  I don't respect that type of player personally," he explained.  "I like Cirie as a person, I just don't appreciate her game play.  She plays the Sandra game, 'As long as it's not me, I'm here for a vote.'  There's no strategy in that whatsoever.  I just hate that type of competitor.  Does it work?  Yes.  We've seen it work many, many seasons.  But at the same time I think it's horrible television, so when you see two groups of four coming up to me and not Cirie, it's basically like Cirie goes, 'Hey, I'm with the majority.  Just tell me who has more yeses.  I'm with them.'  I hate it television-wise."

In addition, Fairplay added he wasn't surprised at the blossoming romances between Lusth and Kimmel and Clement and Shallow, except for what he thought was a small snafu.

"The crazy thing was, I was under the impression both Ozzy and James had girlfriends going into the game, so I'm very curious how that's going to play out!" said Fairplay with a laugh before adding he doesn't think it will hinder their alliance but may give Fields the upper hand.

"That's a strong four alliance.  Like I said, if I had stayed in the game and outted Parvati, that's a pretty weak [alliance] unless Ozzy went with me like I suggested.  That's a weak group.  So right now, I think there's a lot of power with Cirie now being the deciding vote.  But once one person's gone, it's just going to be a majority voting thing."

Fairplay added he personally had a problem with the way producers handled having Kimmel and Clement compete considering the other Favorites were never specifically told how well the two faired during Survivor: China.

"We were only able to see the first four episodes [of China] before we left.  I did read on some of the message boards about James having both idols and not using them.  So I was aware of that.  I read online that James finished sixth or seventh, right around that spot, and I heard Amanda was Top 3 from the message boards," he explained.  "However they weren't allowed to tell us because it would have broke their confidentiality agreements, and we had to pretend as though we knew.  I thought that was ridiculous."

Fairplay also revealed what doomed Malakal during Micronesia's first Immunity Challenge, giving the Fans' Airai tribe the victory.

"As soon as we hit that tree right at the beginning, we split our axle in half and the wheels wouldn't turn.  It was over then," he explained.  "So I don't feel [the Fans] beat us.  I feel as though not being able to push the cart, you're not going to make it to the end.  That's it.  It was over from the beginning."

Considering the way his fellow Favorites reacted to his arrival, Fairplay said he didn't think overcoming the Fans would have ultimately been to arduous of a task had he stayed in the competition.

"I felt as though me going out there with the Favorites, most of the Favorites were from newer seasons that hadn't meant me personally yet.  So with them, there was more of a, 'Oh my God.  We're playing the game with the Jonny Fairplay,'" he said.  "I don't want to be egotistical, but I'm one of the greatest reality TV stars ever.  I have a pretty full resume.  So I was signing autographs for the Favorites before we even started to game.  So I'm like, 'Wow!  I can't wait to meet the Fans, this is going to be cake!'"

Needless to say, Fairplay said he likes the Favorites chances over the Fans.

"Honestly, every single Favorite there has a minimum of 30 days experience in the game, and that's immeasurable.  So my money is on a Favorite," he said before singling out Lusth.  "I like Ozzy for the fact that I kind of told him what to do.  Jonny Fairplay plays a pretty good game of Survivor -- so if he's using my blueprint -- I like his chances."

Fairplay also handicapped the odds of a few of the other Favorites who may come out on top or run into problems.

"I think Amy is one of the smarter players out there.  I think game play wise, I think Amy's near the top," he said.  "I think Eliza knows the game probably better than anyone.  The only problem with Eliza is, all she says non-stop is, 'They're going to vote me off.  They're going to vote me off.  I think they're going to vote me off.'  I'm like, 'Shut up or I'm going to vote you out!  Good God!  Say something else!'  I sit there and tell her, 'If someone says anything to you, just say cool back.  Anything other than I think they're going to vote me out.'  So that really works against her, however [she's] a student of the game.  Jonathan Penner also, he knows the game.  But Jonathan is a player that he can out-Fairplay a Fairplay.  So when the pressure's on and when there's a doubting time, I don't think he could talk his way out of it like I would be able to."

Fairplay claims he's made some "amazing friendships" on the various reality shows he's participated in -- because he's a "genuinely a nice guy" and "not because I'm an asshole" -- meaning he wasn't consciously trying to rehabilitate his image during Micronesia.

"I wanted to go in and have fun and all that.  But if you watch the character of Jonny Fairplay on [Survivor: Pearl Islands], my interaction with the people out there is friendly.  It's the confessional interviews where I go into bad-guy mode and they're not aware of it," he explained.  "So with everything that transpired, I don't think it was necessarily this ploy by me to make this face change.  I think it was just the maturation process of the circumstances around me.  It's just like, 'Hey, you are about to have a little girl.  What's the smartest thing hat you can do for you and your family?'"

It seemingly worked out for Fairplay, as he and Deighton are currently scheduled to wed on June 14 and she gave birth to their daughter Piper Addison last month.  In addition, Fairplay also said had the chance to bury the hatchet with Survivor host Jeff Probst.

"Most people consider [Survivor: Pearl Islands as] the story of Jonny Fairplay vs. Rupert.  But I sent Rupert home halfway through.  The only constant in the show was Jonny Fairplay vs. Jeff Probst.  We would go at it tooth and nail, like we weren't scared to be honest.  I think it really made for great television.  So this time around was Round 2.  I think it's only fitting that in the final chapter of Fairplay vs. Probst, it ends in a hug.  I thought it was beautiful television," he said.  "I would have to say after the hug, I think officially the olive branch has been passed and accepted and I would consider Jeff a friend."

Fairplay said he's currently in the process of legally changing his name to Jonny Fairplay, which Deighton -- who plans to take on Fairplay's surname once they marry -- agreed to go along with.  As for what's next for "one of the greatest reality TV stars ever?"

"I have a new gig.  It's called fatherhood.  I'm loving it," he said.  "So I left Micronesia to give this family thing a try and I love it.  Let's ride this for a while."
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Re: Allainces
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2008, 09:41:04 AM »
Okay after what happen last night with the favs, how do we see this working out.  Cirie was adamon about who she was voting for and some of her alliance did not agree.  Will they stick together?  Will Ami, Eliza or Jonathan be able to get in with some of the other alliance.

On the fans.. I think Joel making a move so early will be his down fall.  I think he had a tight alliance that would have stuck, but now they will question all the votes afraid of a back stab.