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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Contestant Spoilers /Speculation
« Reply #100 on: October 13, 2007, 04:21:59 PM »
I really need to know where that raft was when they were going off in the row boat.    :(

It was taken either 8:30 to 9:30 AM or 4:30 to 5:30 PM.

The current best guess of where the zipline goes argues for the PM time due to the sunshine on their backs as they zip down from the old fort.
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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Contestant Spoilers /Speculation
« Reply #101 on: October 13, 2007, 09:21:49 PM »
For the skeptics  ;)

You can kind of see the round steps when you zoom in on the shot.

Also, remember they are opening the Roadblock clue at that cluebox that is nearby.

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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #102 on: October 13, 2007, 10:28:03 PM »
Okay... :hearts:  I have a fair bit more info on the team above, how they were doing, some on the other teams, and more on the task itself.

On the TEAM: (until we know their names, let's call them GHB {Green-Headband team} for short)

     ** He had red hair, and she was a tiny (but strong) brunette.
     ** Assumed to be  boyfriend/girlfriend, as they were close in age, but they could be brother/sister.

What about the other teams?

      ** also seen were a M/F and a F/F team (plus we have other team photo evidence from puddin's discovery)
      ** there were either 6 or 7 teams left
      ** there were a group of 3 teams (who caught the earliest flight) that arrived first
      ** That group included the Goths
      ** then Team GHB
      ** then either 2 or 3 further teams arrived about an hour later.

How was Team GHB doing at that point?

     **they had been in first place the day before, then missed their flight connection by 5 minutes.
     **Their cab driver took them to Cluebox # 2 location first by mistake, making them even later.
     **They were now somewhere in the middle, but closer to the last group of teams than the first, and probably did not  know the other group was that close behind 
         them.

On the TASK:

      ** (order of tasks is not entirely clear, but based on the fact that team GHB were taken to the "wrong" location first, it is presumed that the following is correct)
      ** First Cluebox was near the base of the Fort (that would be here)
   Roadblock card?
       
        (Roadblock may come first here) (10/16)
       ** From the clue box they next run up the hill (stairs in picture) to the Fort and do the zipline. 
       **All teams do the zipline not clear at this time--there appears to be TWO ziplines (10/16)
                   
       Thumbnail--click me!

       ** Zipline went from the Fort and then hooked up to one of the towers on the city walls.


Next the Detour:   
         **sign seen with two arrows, names of tasks not recalled.
         ** teams either did a task we can call for now: " ROW it " or "ROPE" it
         ** GHB team rappelled down the side of the walls, then waded over to another section of the wall and climbed up using rope ladders.
         ** picture of GHB team woman is after she has climbed up onto the wall via the rope ladder and while she and the crew guys are waiting for her partner to finish his climb

thumbnail--click me!

         ** it is then thought that teams may have gone to the other cluebox at the port but this is not clear--other cluebox could be something with rowboats?

           

          ** It is thought that Roadblock task followed the Detour/Wall Climb not clear at this time (10/16)

What happened next??

           ** on a predawn flight Dubrovnik--Zagreb on July 20: There were a number of crew on the flight, recognized from tasks on July 20, including one who may have been a producer.  They made an ongoing connection in Zagreb. (possible Croatian Air #319 depart 6:25 AM arr 7:20 AM)
           ** There were NO teams on that flight or seen in the airport at that hour.



Thanks to puddin for this MAP which we thinks shows the possible task locations--and for Chateau's great location work seen above!



and just for fun--look hard and you can see:







« Last Edit: October 16, 2007, 03:08:29 PM by georgiapeach »
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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #103 on: October 13, 2007, 11:06:10 PM »
A photo of Fort Bokar taken on 20 July showing some kind of rigging/scaffolding. For a zipline? For a concert? I don't know.

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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #104 on: October 13, 2007, 11:12:33 PM »
COOL! Another great find!

I'll ask....
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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #105 on: October 13, 2007, 11:39:21 PM »
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Could these wires be our actual zipline?

For sure!

I think the rigging structures that Slowhatch found on the two towers are in the right places but they both look too weak for a zipline that is up to TAR standards.

They usually use the welded box structures.  Very Beefy.

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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #106 on: October 13, 2007, 11:56:41 PM »
The only thing with that is that the date of July 19 is definite.

Scaffolding could of course be still there on 7/20 or camera date could be funky.

This kind of box, Chateau?

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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #107 on: October 14, 2007, 12:02:24 AM »
And Chateau--did your pic of the Roadblock location come with a date on it?

Because looks like there was some wall building going on there for sure!

Dubr wall building.jpg
« Last Edit: October 16, 2007, 01:14:42 PM by puddin »
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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #108 on: October 14, 2007, 12:06:49 AM »
Yea, and that is there just for climbing a silly rope ladder!

To hold 400+ pounds up on cables stretched over 386 feet (I just measure the span using Google Earth) is going to be a really impressive piece of engineering.

But the clue box by Fort Revelin is very puzzling.  All tasks are done when the rowers arrive at the docks or the ropers arrive over land.  Is it a general TAR rule that every clue that tells teams to go to the Pit Stop comes from a task such as a Roadblock or a Detour?
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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #109 on: October 14, 2007, 12:07:38 AM »
The picture was from you!
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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #110 on: October 14, 2007, 12:34:10 AM »
From me? ummmmm.....

I have no clue!

There are 2 pictures sets--one from puddin with cluebox arrivals

one from me of GHB team

where is that house picture? :lol:

Did see this though! from puddin's set...

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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #111 on: October 14, 2007, 12:41:52 AM »
From Puddin's set of pix, I get the impression that the wall building was done to the other side.  There is a shot of Trent at the wall.

I don't know why the wall is being supported by a wooden frame.

Maybe the extra thickness of the wall at that spot was done just for the TAR task.  Tourists shots from later on may show the added parts gone.
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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #112 on: October 14, 2007, 12:59:00 AM »
here is Wall building reenactment the next day...from puddins set

Here is YOUR picture of harbour--now where did that come from? :lol3:

DUBROV wall building re-enactment.jpg

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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #113 on: October 14, 2007, 01:04:03 AM »
NEVERMIND!!! I just found it in puddins source photos!


thank goodness--I thought I had lost my mind! :rotf:
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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #114 on: October 14, 2007, 02:02:42 AM »
Oh and I nearly forgot the BEST site!!

Go to this site>>look for this map>>click on marked spots and you get a beautiful panoramic tour! And you can pause and zoom in and everything!

http://www.tzdubrovnik.hr/virtualtours.shtml#

Just like being there....well--almost!  :lol:

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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #115 on: October 14, 2007, 09:41:51 AM »
And Vance's original sighting does report people in the center of the Old Town as well--so we have that to look forward to as well!

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Her husband was waiting in the center of the old city and he saw pple running down the street with cameramen following along and he also saw cameramen and others with walky-talkys tracking other pple and talking btwn eachother with directions that pple were running.
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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #116 on: October 16, 2007, 01:01:11 AM »
I really need to know where that raft was when they were going off in the row boat.    :(

It was taken either 8:30 to 9:30 AM or 4:30 to 5:30 PM.

The current best guess of where the zipline goes argues for the PM time due to the sunshine on their backs as they zip down from the old fort.

well I found the raft, at least we know it wasn't put there by the crews  :lol:~

Beautiful view from Dubrovnik city walls - Croatia

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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #117 on: October 16, 2007, 01:18:56 AM »
Here is where I think the raft was.  South of the City Wall Tower.  This location gives the right sun angles to match the above shot for end-of-day sun.

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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #118 on: October 16, 2007, 11:53:27 AM »
New Pictures!  :hearts: Now we can perfectly see how the task progressed!  :wohoo:

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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #119 on: October 16, 2007, 12:03:07 PM »
Overall View:


Close up view of Zipline ending point


Close up view of the Rope Ladder
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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #120 on: October 16, 2007, 12:09:56 PM »
But LOOK at this!

This zipline is a lean onto and in a harness Zipline!



And this one is a hang by your wrists Zipline!


They look like entirely different zipline set-ups to me!

So...does each Detour have its own Zipline??  ???

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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #121 on: October 16, 2007, 12:13:53 PM »
and these inserts (thank you puddin!) show Slowhatch's scaffolding with that of the task. Looks like a match to me!  :yess:

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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #122 on: October 16, 2007, 12:17:37 PM »
And just in case you were wondering  ;) ---How DID they get that shot? Here you go!  (or something almost like this!)

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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #123 on: October 16, 2007, 01:02:58 PM »
Great find peach!
I'm impressed  :jumpy:

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Re: The Amazing Race 12 Spoilers
« Reply #124 on: October 16, 2007, 01:30:12 PM »
Thanks Michael!

But really, I am being saved  by an  :angel: !
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