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« on: January 30, 2007, 07:42:49 PM »
I don't remember seeing an icefield like this before. The lagoon in Iceland looked different. Could it be the Alaska part of TAR2? I don't have that on video. The URL, fwiw:
http://www.axnasia.com/displays/images/200702/tar-allstars-512k.flv


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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2007, 09:47:32 PM »
SLOWHATCH, it reminds me of pictures I have seen of ice floating off the coast of Antarctica. It could be taken from King George Island or from the Antarctic Peninsula on the coast at the Antarctic Circle. Let's hope so.

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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2007, 10:00:05 PM »
Brrrrr....Antarctica ice!

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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2007, 10:18:26 PM »
Good Times and not the same..

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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2007, 10:40:01 PM »
Good catch Slowhatch  :wine:

omg the old intros were fun to watch !


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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2007, 10:51:56 PM »
I've googled Ushuaia along with icebergs and "sea ice" without much luck (a glossary here, fwiw). I'm trying to think like a producer, but it's still a puzzle. A cruise vessel would eat up way too much time; on the other hand, watching racers stare out an airplane window would be dullsville. 
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2007, 08:23:54 AM »
Ice could be Chile. Grey Lake/Glacier:



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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2007, 09:05:39 AM »
I've googled Ushuaia along with icebergs and "sea ice" without much luck (a glossary here, fwiw). I'm trying to think like a producer, but it's still a puzzle. A cruise vessel would eat up way too much time; on the other hand, watching racers stare out an airplane window would be dullsville. 

My thoughts are that the racers are flown to King George Island, where such ice flows are common. They then may be taken by helicopter to the Antarctic Peninsula at the Antarctic Circle just to say they've done that. That would probably be on the coast and could also provide nice ice flow shots.

SLOWHATCH, nice sighting of the expressway exit for the clue box in AR7 final episode. As I was scrolling down, when the picture first came up from PUDDIN, I knew what it was and then I saw your getting it right. I have a question for PUDDIN: Where did this picture appear? In what context?

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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2007, 09:27:57 AM »
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PUDDIN: Where did this picture appear? In what context?
I think these came from the All Stars promo that was on AXN which puddin kindly youtubed for us...


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I youtubed the AXN preview(in the Fun Box ) for All Stars.. I see nothing new, as far as I can tell, but its fun to watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVWPFut0kr0


Okay--are we finally in that realm of "you know you have been thinking about spoilers WAY  too much...when you start analyzing ice cubes?"

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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2007, 10:24:15 AM »
What peach wrote apskip, the Florida TAR7  :tup: pic came from the AXN promo.
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Okay--are we finally in that realm of "you know you have been thinking about spoilers WAY  too much...when you start analyzing ice cubes
How many ice cubes can you count in Slowhatch's original pic  peach  :lol: ?

mwoodens back  :woohoo:


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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2007, 10:45:52 AM »
The ice flows around Antarctica are known as PACK ICE.  The closer you actually get to the land mass, the thicker the ice gets until it is solid ice formed as an ICE SHELF.  Coast Guard icebreakers can power through the pack ice but not the ice shelf.  Little America was built on the Ross Shelf Ice; McMurdo Sound base is actually on the solid land mass.  I sent Puddin some black and white pix some time ago; color wasn't that common in my days in the Antarctic.

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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2007, 11:29:14 AM »
Okay--now's our chance! There are 300 cruise ship passengers stranded in Antarctica --so what questions do we have??  :lol: :lol:


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Gingerman--would you tell us a little more more about why you were there and what you were doing?  :please:  I'm so interested!
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2007, 10:07:13 PM »
Okay--now's our chance! There are 300 cruise ship passengers stranded in Antarctica --so what questions do we have??  :lol: :lol:


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Gingerman--would you tell us a little more more about why you were there and what you were doing?  :please:  I'm so interested!

I was in the Army as a combat motion picture cameraman and in November 1946 my unit was "volunteered" by the Army to accompany Admiral Byrd on his return to Little America in December 1946 in the largest expedition that was ever mounted to explore Antarctica - some 12 ships, 9 planes, and 7000 sailors and us 4 Army photographers.  The operation was called OPERATION HIGHJUMP. We filmed just about everything in both black and white and glorious color.  Our film, along with the film shot by the Navy photogs, was given to MGM who produced the documentary film: THE SECRET LAND with Robert Montgomery as the narrator.  The film won the Academy Award for the best feature documentary in 1948.

I spent most of the time on a ship travelling almost three quarters around the continent dodging icebergs and pack ice.  We had three Martin Mariners on board (thats a sea plane) and we would put them overboard almost every day and then fly mapping flights over the continent. In all we were in the Antarctic for four months then returned home via Sydney for a week's R and R!  Sydney, by the way, is a great place for R and R!!!

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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2007, 10:27:53 PM »
reposting Gmans fantastic pictures  :kissy:


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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2007, 10:48:17 PM »
Wow G-man!!

Our own Academy Award winning poster--this is impressive!

Is that film still out there--how can I see it? I've become so interested in Antarctica thanks to TAR that all of this is fascinating!

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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2007, 11:51:03 PM »
More pictures from Gman    :kissy:
Icepack up close

Our ship in the ice

Putting the plane overboard.

Take off in front of icepack

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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2007, 10:36:57 AM »
Thanks for sharing these wonderful pictures with us Gingerman! What an incredible adventure to have been a part of--have you ever thought of writing a book about all this?

And in the days before high tech clothing--how the heck did you stay warm? (Spoken like a true southern girl....)
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2007, 07:29:32 PM »
Thanks for sharing these wonderful pictures with us Gingerman! What an incredible adventure to have been a part of--have you ever thought of writing a book about all this?

And in the days before high tech clothing--how the heck did you stay warm? (Spoken like a true southern girl....)

Sheepskins and leather.  Also some brand new (then) nylon downish sort of stuff.  And it was summer so it never really got that cold, just down to minus 20F when the sun was close to the horizon.  In the air it got down to something like minus 70F.

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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2007, 07:45:41 PM »
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--pictures please! :flirt: You must have some of the man-in-uniform variety!

My parents were in Alaska not long after that--my Dad was a pilot--but I never heard of anything  this bad--
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And it was summer so it never really got that cold, just down to minus 20F when the sun was close to the horizon.  In the air it got down to something like minus 70F.

I might have to reevaluate my longing to see Antarctica now... :js:
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2007, 08:16:34 PM »
How did you keep your weiner schnitzel warm Gman  :js: ?

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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2007, 10:24:15 AM »
How did you keep your weiner schnitzel warm Gman  :js: ?

Trade Secret :-[

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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2007, 12:59:04 PM »
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--pictures please! :flirt: You must have some of the man-in-uniform variety!

My parents were in Alaska not long after that--my Dad was a pilot--but I never heard of anything  this bad--
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And it was summer so it never really got that cold, just down to minus 20F when the sun was close to the horizon.  In the air it got down to something like minus 70F.

I might have to reevaluate my longing to see Antarctica now... :js:

Well I can't speak of Antartica.

But I lived 25 years in Alaska, the coldest it ever got for me was outside of Fairbanks where (just temperature no wind chill factor or aything) was  62 below zero..

But it was by far the coldest winter I had ever had, with what seemed like a month of low temperatrues that were 40 beow and worse.

Needless to say I am sure 9 months later there were probably many new borns entering the world.

I have heard from Russians that I knew growing up that Siberia could get much, much colder even then that (Yikes).  I can't imagine what part sof Antartica would reach.

GMAN when you say it was summer, was that Western Hemispere Summer?  Because if so then that should be the colder part of the year for the sputhern Hemisphere.  Just curious, becuase I would think it could get significantly colder then 70 below.

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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2007, 02:23:39 PM »
How did you keep your weiner schnitzel warm Gman  :js: ?

Trade Secret :-[
  :lol: Ahh I just knew you could handle keeping your weiner warm Gman, just like you handled your sausage   :kuss:

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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2007, 02:36:04 PM »
I pulled the above posts out of the media thread so that antarctica can be discussed in one thread if possible ..seems were all over the place with it  :lol:
Maybe you all can help me bring " quotes " over here from the spoiler thread?

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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2007, 03:23:27 PM »
I think antartica discussion starts around page 41 ?

heres some of the quotes that I coped for now ..

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I'm not sure what's meant by that. Argentina lumps Ushuaia (Tierra del Fuego), the offshore islands and the Antarctic station all into one province. Unless they arranged a government plane, there's only one commercial camp: ANI (here's their base in the Patriot Hills), which is owned by ALE (here's a charter flight list for 2006-2007). ANI/ALE only flies out of Punta Arenas, which is a little more confusing; maybe they didn't leave Ushuaia at all.

SLOWHATCH, you'll have a lot more success if you are researching Antarctica claimed by Chile. There are weekly flights and occasional boat trips into King George Island. It is at the 60th parellel, which some people consider to be Antarctica and others not, which could explain why CBS is hedging on that point. You can find out about the flights from a link on the Ushuaia website.

Which link is that? I found a couple of official sites with street maps and photos--the city government website and E-Ushuaia--but both are in Spanish. Ushuaia seems to a popular starting point for ship tourism; the flights I've found seem to be mostly "fly-overs." The past few weeks I've been checking polar sites like 70 South and the Antarctic Sun for news, but no luck; you'd think if the circus came to town  :ele: somebody would have noticed.

Slowhatch --this is my favorite site with lots of info about flights to Antarctica from Ushuaia, maps of Antarctica, and maps of King George.

And here is a good Ushuaia site .

And I know what you mean about the circus--I've read more Antarctica blogs looking for info than I'll ever want to count!

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« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2007, 06:53:23 PM »
I just checked all my recorded promos for TAR6 Premiere and the entire occupation of Iceland.  The shot of 'bergy bits' above never appears.  The icebergs in the detour there have a whole different look.  The shot above looks like busted ice from the surface of the ocean.  It's not the kind that would be from a glacier falling into the sea.

Once we check TAR2's Alaska we should be able to call it Antarctica ice.   :jam:

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« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2007, 07:12:13 PM »
Here is a shot of an icy surface before it gets busted up that I took a while back.

Anybody know where it is?   :rotf:
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« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2007, 07:24:48 PM »
Your back yard? :lol:
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« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2007, 07:58:35 PM »
Farther away!

It's an ocean...

but it looks like you got it
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« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2007, 11:00:36 PM »
Interesting ICE Facts...



Bergy Bits and Growlers
Very small chunks of floating ice that rise only about 1 meter / 3 feet out of the water are called "growlers". When trapped air escapes as the iceberg melts, it sometimes makes a sound like the growl of an animal, and that's how growlers got their name.

Small icebergs, rising between 1-4 meters / 3-13 feet out of the water are called "bergy bits". These may be small icebergs in the latter stages of melting, iceberg fragments, or pieces of floebergs or hummocked ice.

Bergy bits may sound cute, but they can still be dangerous to ships because they are harder to see than large icebergs.

A "floeberg" is a massive piece of sea ice composed of hummocks (ice that rises up because of the pressure of ice floes jamming and crushing against each other) that has separated from the ice pack. It may typically protrude up to 5 meters / 16 feet above sea level.

As the ice pack is frozen sea / salt water, floebergs - unlike true icebergs - are not frozen freshwater and would not make good ice cubes for your drink.

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« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2007, 11:18:51 PM »
I have turned my attention to legs beyond the first one, specifically to legs 2, 3, and 4. Leg 2 should be a trip to the Atacama Desert of northern Chile. There are 3 possible airports there: Arica, Iquique, Antofagasta. The highest probability (by a small amount) of these three goes to Antofagasta, which is a mere 600 miles by road from Santiago. That opens up the possibility of a long bus or self-drive trip to begin leg 3; it also might be a flight to Santiago. The rest of leg three will be a flight from Santiago to Punta Arenas, Chile. The most logical next step is a flight to King George Island(Isla Rey Jorge), which is 100 miles off the Antarctic Peninsula, and overnight there followed by a return to Punta Arenas. Given the times and distances involved this could mean a double leg. For leg 4, from Punta Arenas there is a 3 times per week one hour LAN flight or a twice per week 11 3/4 hour bus involving crossing the Straight of Magellan to get to Tierra del Fuego and Ushuaia, Argentina. The one thing that is certain (beacuse van Munster said so) is a trip to the bottom of South America. That is Cape Horn, Chile, a national park on an island  and it is about 125 miles south of Ushuaia. The teams would have to do that by boat or helicopter. After returning to Ushuaia, then you can fly out to get to southern Africa. My guess is that the flights connect through Buenos Aires.

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The connection Equator to Tropic of Capricorn to maybe Antarctic Circle (South 66 degrees 33' 39") would be a whiz-bang start to AR11.


I'm all for that!  :yess: I'll be so disappointed if they don't go to Antarctica (or south pole or whatever Bertram called it)

That blog sounds like something I would LOVE to read--can you provide a link to that? (Feel free to send me a message if you need help doing that--it took me ages to learn and I just about drove puddin crazy with questions while I learned... :js:)


Tropic of Capricorn in Chile--it is near our hand!
El Mitad del Mundo "Middle of the Earth" Equator monument--just north of Quito
Looks like you beat me to it Peach  :lol:  Look no shadows!  Its 12 noon at the equator.   ;D

MITAD DEL MUNDO
I have heard that it is actually 18 seconds of arc south of the equator!  Ref. 

And, using GE, I got that the monument was too far south by 787 feet.

ANTARCTICA

Today's weekly travel issue of Newsday.com contained a really good article "Over Antarctica" about the flight that 33 passengers of a cruise ship took from Puntas Arenas Chile down over King George Island and selected parts (unidentified) of the Antarctic Peninsula. This summary of travel options at the end of the article may interest you:

Our Antarctic flyover out of Punta Arenas, Chile, was offered as an extra-cost excursion to passengers of the Norwegian Crown ship (ncl.com) that sails from November through March between Buenos Aires and Santiago, Chile. Price of the excursion: $1,599 (all prices in this story are subject to change).
These programs are limited to cruise passengers, but there are options for civilians. Among those we found:

Aerovias DAP (011-56-61-223340; aeroviasdap.cl), a Chilean airline serving Patagonia, offers one-day flightseeing and a two-day, one-night program that includes an overnight at a base on King George Island, one of the islands off the coast of continental Antarctica.
Upside to King George Island: It's popular with penguins and technically qualifies as "Antarctica," if you're keeping score. Downside: When you're there (the "season" is December through March), its usual lack of ice and snow won't match your image of Antarctica.
Price of that flyover (subject to change) is $2,300; the overnight version is $2,950. Depending on demand, the aircraft can be an eight-seat Beechcraft or a 40-passenger plane. Other points: Hefty non-refundable deposits are required, and passengers are advised to plan on spending several nights in Punta Arenas (not a bad place to spend several nights, under these circumstances) to allow for alternate dates in case the weather doesn't cooperate.
"It's amazing," Isabel, a reservationist in the Punta Arenas office who made the trip in March 2006, said of the experience. "And you can see the penguins very close."

An option that combines the flight, which eliminates the days and potential discomfort associated with crossing the Drake Passage by ship, with a ship-based expedition is offered by AntarcticaXXI (011-56-61-228783; antarcticaxxi.com), also based in Punta Arenas.
This program flies passengers in a 50-seat plane to King George Island, where they board an expedition vessel (limit: 46 passengers) and off they go.
Prices for the seven-day program start at $7,100 per person, double occupancy.

Flyovers from New Zealand, nearest gateway after South America, ended after a 1979 flight crashed into 13,200-foot Mt. Erebus on the continent, killing 257 passengers and crew. But Antarctica flightseeing from the region resumed in 1994, and these days there are two flights annually, both from Australia -- one out of Sydney and a second leaving from Sydney with a stop in Melbourne. The most recent was on New Year's Eve, and the next is scheduled for Feb. 7. These are 12-hour flights -- four hours to Antarctica, four over the continent and four back -- aboard a Qantas Boeing 747, with prices based on seat location. Prices: from $713 for a seat you probably don't want to $4,126 for First Class and a guaranteed window seat during prime time. Food and bar included. Details: Australia-based Croydon Travel (011-61-3-9725-8555; antarcticaflights.com.au).

Now, if you're really serious about this Antarctica thing and can afford the cost of seriousness, there's a U.S.-owned company that operates out of Punta Arenas with programs that fly you into the interior: Adventure Network International (adventure-network.com). Among its programs: an Ice Marathon. Price: $15,000. A seven- or eight-day adventure that will get you to the South Pole and back runs a tidy $33,500. There are more options. A Wilmette, Ill., agency that features adventure travel, Northwest Passage (800-732-7328; nwpassage.com), can answer questions.

Most other access to Antarctica is via ship out of (or at least stopping in) Ushuaia, Argentina, in vessels ranging from luxury cruisers to small-ship expeditions utilizing converted Russian icebreakers. Prices are all over the map.


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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2007, 12:00:22 AM »
Puddin--great idea to put this all in one thread! 

But the discussion started WAY back on page 16--right after the Guidos were spotted  in Ushuaia.

I'll help bring stuff over tomorrow if you want--but can you put them in chronological order? And you want all references to Antarctica?
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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2007, 12:47:00 AM »
 :groan: that far back  :lol:? peach if you want to help that would be great... :tup: ..doesn't have to be everything just the interesting stuff, links, facts .. etc.

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« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2007, 12:13:45 PM »
I don't know if this has been noted yet but here is a city map of Ushuaia.

You can find the location of the internet 'coffee'   :lol:

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The locutario where the pics were taken was at the corner of 25 de Mayo and San Martin in Ushuaia.

It is near the bus drop off as well as the main city pier.  So a boat drop off is also a possibility.
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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2007, 01:12:16 PM »
Oooh! I love maps!

What do y'all think about starting a map thread? Someplace we can quick check when we need to find somewhere?

We have them...they are just sometimes hard to find when you need them!

For instance, I LOVE this map--but will I be able to find it in Antarctica?! :lol: ???
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« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2007, 01:25:36 PM »
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GMAN when you say it was summer, was that Western Hemispere Summer?  Because if so then that should be the colder part of the year for the sputhern Hemisphere.  Just curious, becuase I would think it could get significantly colder then 70 below.

It was summer for the Southern Hemisphere which runs from December 21 to March 21.  And in the Antarctic we had sunlight almost 24/7 during this time, so it was a little warmer than normally is the case in the Antarctic.

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« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2007, 01:32:07 PM »
Opps!

I thought this was for Ushuaia too. 

Yeah, a map thread would be good.   :jam:
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« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2007, 02:34:18 PM »
We are all over the place  :rotf: ..too bad we didn't think to atleast start a " South America " topic sooner.
Go ahead and start a map thread peach or Chateau.. you don't need me permission.

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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2007, 02:44:30 PM »
Or a thread for each continent! Oh, well...

I think I will start a place for maps--because I can navigate really well with the right map but I get grumpy when I don't have one!

I'll move over the maps we have so far...(or at least try!)

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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2007, 02:49:57 PM »
We could start a new thread for each continent but who feels like going through all those other threads to dig out the info?  :rotf:

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« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2007, 02:58:14 PM »
Not I said the fly!

I'm going to make the maps my Super Bowl project!
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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2007, 01:34:59 AM »
I just checked all my recorded promos for TAR6 Premiere and the entire occupation of Iceland.  The shot of 'bergy bits' above never appears.  The icebergs in the detour there have a whole different look.  The shot above looks like busted ice from the surface of the ocean.  It's not the kind that would be from a glacier falling into the sea.

Once we check TAR2's Alaska we should be able to call it Antarctica ice.   :jam:

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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2007, 05:20:38 PM »
Can we lock this or no?  :-\

Is the race more difficult than previous seasons?

First of all, the terrain and territories and countries are more difficult. This makes it hard, because itís physically very exhausting, and that puts a lot of pressure on your psyche also. Some of the countries we went to were Ecuador and down into Chile. The northern part of Chile is all desert, and the southern part is basically very remote and very primitive. Itís very hard to get to. We went all the way to the southern point, which is really close to the South Pole. These places are very, very unique, and very difficult to operate in.

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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2007, 05:36:20 PM »
Please not yet....

I'm still in denial--can we wait a little longer? :lol:
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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2007, 05:52:32 PM »
lol peach ...if you want to see Antarctica your welcome to come visit my house  ;)

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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2007, 06:21:54 PM »
 :lol:

Blame it on the weather.  It's gonna be like that half of the Alaska detour in TAR9 that was not used due to flying conditions.
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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2007, 07:09:40 PM »
Can we lock this or no?  :-\

Is the race more difficult than previous seasons?


My vote is NOT YET. In the words of that sage Yogi Berra, "It's not over til it's over."  There is still a very slim chance that our Antarctica thread may come in handy. Once the USHUAIA pit stop is reached, you can lock it with certainty.

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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2007, 07:26:31 PM »
lol peach ...if you want to see Antarctica your welcome to come visit my house  ;)

hey--stick up a picture of your back yard or something! Hopefully that will be all the snow I see this year!

For a southern girl who hates to be cold--wonder why I got so attached to the whole Antarctica thing? I think I just wanted to hear Phil say: SEVEN continents...!! :lol:

Thank you apskip! Us "cock-eyed optimists" have to stick together!  Hmmm..there are still those unknown locations after Maputo! :lol3:
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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2007, 07:47:40 PM »
For those still holding out hope there's this article (with photo gallery), published a month ago, about overflights from PA that can be accomplished in less than a day. Me? I'll stick with Ushuaia.

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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2007, 07:57:35 PM »
I like these two comments...


"There's no use coming this far and--if you have a chance to go see it, well . . ."


"Because it's there. And I plan to get to as many places as I can before I'm toast."

But a flyover? Not for me! I want to spend one (and one will be plenty! :lol:) night on an ice-floe!



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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2007, 08:15:02 PM »
lol peach ...if you want to see Antarctica your welcome to come visit my house  ;)

hey--stick up a picture of your back yard or something! Hopefully that will be all the snow I see this year!

For a southern girl who hates to be cold--wonder why I got so attached to the whole Antarctica thing? I think I just wanted to hear Phil say: SEVEN continents...!! :lol:

Thank you apskip! Us "cock-eyed optimists" have to stick together!  Hmmm..there are still those unknown locations after Maputo! :lol3:

I asked puddin if she would bring her shovel here when she's done..  :hides


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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2007, 08:27:05 PM »
Oh my...

specially love the icicles!

Brrrrr...
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« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2007, 08:33:03 PM »
Oh my...

specially love the icicles!

Brrrrr...

They've grown a couple of inches and I really should knock them off. That was two days ago and that's not me "playing" with the snow, I took the pic..  :lol:

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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #54 on: February 16, 2007, 10:11:29 PM »
since we are farting around in this thread about snow ..

heres the ice storm we had a few years back ...no power for a week and where I live that means no water either! Thank God for the fireplace and propane :jam:.

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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #55 on: February 16, 2007, 10:33:33 PM »
NO power or water for a week?! No hugging Phil for you!

The ice is beautiful but I'd bet it was really hard on all those pretty trees...

Was this storm worse? More snow? At least you kept your power this time!
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« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2007, 11:12:15 PM »
We have power this time ....there are no more trees to break :D
If only I recorded the sounds of the trees snapping and the icicles breaking , the sounds were something I'll never forget.
The kids and I stuck iit out even though they could have stayed at my sisters, ..ME? I couldn't leave me cats  home alone ..can you imagine TV for a week and flushing toilets with water that we saved in the bathtubs!? Hurray for keeping paperplates and cups on hand as well as cheese for grilled cheese with soup and plenty of wine, bottled water as well as board games. The wine was  for me of course...it was the only way I could fall asleep  :angel:

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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2007, 05:35:02 AM »
Poor trees!

I can imagine no TV for a week....but puddin with no computer for a week--not to be thought about!
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« Reply #58 on: February 17, 2007, 01:39:46 PM »
I want some snow  :'(   (in the mountains)   :rotf:

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Re: Antarctica ..
« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2007, 04:23:15 PM »
I have some vacation time left.... ;)

It was 22 here this AM when I came into work with snow flurries in the mts tonight--and this is the south!

I personally think that the only good snow comes under a pair of skis! :lol:
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« Reply #60 on: February 17, 2007, 04:48:53 PM »
God, I am so jealous.  When I moved from Alaska to California, Ihas no idea how much I would actually miss snow.

Its been 15 years now.  And in 15 years, I have seen snow 4 times..

I think I need a winter vacation.

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« Reply #61 on: February 17, 2007, 05:08:36 PM »
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puddin needs help shovelling! :lol:
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« Reply #62 on: February 17, 2007, 05:15:57 PM »
They JUST opened the interstates after I JUST got home after an hour detour both ways turning my 2 hour trip into 4 hours :groan:
You like Skiing peach? this is roughly a mile from where I live but I don't get over there too much, I miss the lodge most of all, lol  :keeta:

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« Reply #63 on: February 17, 2007, 05:22:50 PM »
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puddin needs help shovelling! :lol:
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Cute, Peach very cute.

Hell, no computer for a week.  My god, I am surprised Puddin lived through that.

Luckily all my terrible winter experiences were before I was addicted to the net (its more addictive then crack).

But I actually new this couple outside of Fairbanks alaska who lived year round with no electricity.  They were naturalist (otherwise known as crazy to the rest of the world).

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« Reply #64 on: February 17, 2007, 05:24:21 PM »
They JUST opened the interstates after I JUST got home after an hour detour both ways turning my 2 hour trip into 4 hours :groan:
You like Skiing peach? this is roughly a mile from where I live but I don't get over there too much, I miss the lodge most of all, lol  :keeta:

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Okay Puddin be honest, did you ever actually ski.

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« Reply #65 on: February 17, 2007, 05:26:22 PM »
I love to ski but don't get to go very often any more since that involves going out "West"...

But used to ski every other weekend when I lived in Boston...fun times! I'll check out that webcam when the sun is out!

mswood--are you watching "Men in Trees"? Might bring back Alaskan memories.... :lol: My mom empathised with the bear in the kitchen one--only hers was a bear in the outhouse!
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« Reply #66 on: February 17, 2007, 05:29:21 PM »

Okay Puddin be honest, did you ever actually ski.
  :lol: Believe it or not YES but prefer the lodge << only reason to go skiing.

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« Reply #67 on: February 17, 2007, 06:17:30 PM »
I love to ski but don't get to go very often any more since that involves going out "West"...

But used to ski every other weekend when I lived in Boston...fun times! I'll check out that webcam when the sun is out!

mswood--are you watching "Men in Trees"? Might bring back Alaskan memories.... :lol: My mom empathised with the bear in the kitchen one--only hers was a bear in the outhouse!
Never even heard of the program.

As for Bears, my parents house's property ended and a national wildlife refuge started.  We had beers in the yard, on the porch, in the garrage.  We had Moose all the time in winter.  Once when I was about 15 and by myself, I was down stairs with my dogs who started barking at the window and all of a sudden the window broke.  A Moose had kicked it in.  Scared the crap out of me (It was dark and couldn't see the Moose.  Went outside with a rifle and my dogs, ready to shoot some intruder (I loved Alaska where it was legal to kill someone on your property as long as you had warning signs out).  We even during one bad winter had a wolf pack that normally stayed further away from the farms and houses that came in one winter and killed a ton of cattle, and pets that people had out at night (lucky my dogs slept inside at night).

And its funny talking about skiing.  The 24 years I lived in Alaska I never once went to a ski resort.  Never.  I sucked at down hill skiing and never wanted to be seen making a fool out of myself.  Cross country skiing though I loved.  Used to do that all the time.  One weekend, me and my friends took skiied 100 miles for a campout in a lodge my parents had.  It was awesome.

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« Reply #68 on: February 17, 2007, 07:22:21 PM »
Yikes mswood  :o , does not sound like somewhere I would like to live.
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« Reply #69 on: February 19, 2007, 04:48:36 AM »
In one of the insider video clips for episode one (the one about Mary not liking the cold), we hear that Ian wants to go to Antartica.

See even some of the racers want to go.

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« Reply #70 on: February 24, 2007, 03:19:41 PM »
General interest:

Whaling ship adrift in Antarctica after a fire --conservation group initially suspected...
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« Reply #71 on: March 21, 2007, 05:45:12 PM »
TAR Detective BUMP!

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