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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #500 on: February 18, 2007, 07:09:28 PM »
I estimate that TARAS will start at 8:24ET; that is unless they cut out some commercial time - but fat chance of that.


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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #501 on: February 18, 2007, 07:11:52 PM »
Are they going to show 60 minutes?  :knuckles: :meow:
Good news is Canadians can't spoil TAR for us tonight because they get the Oscars and can't watch ARAS untill Monday night :neener: for once to them.

pssssssst thats next week
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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #502 on: February 18, 2007, 07:15:24 PM »
Are they going to show 60 minutes?  :knuckles: :meow:
Good news is Canadians can't spoil TAR for us tonight because they get the Oscars and can't watch ARAS untill Monday night :neener: for once to them.

pssssssst thats next week
OOPS! Oh OK Kogs  :-[ :angel:! Sorry I was watching FOX all day and has no idea what was going on in the rest of TV Land  :lol:

thats what happenes when you watch FOX all day  :lol: :lol: :angel:

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #503 on: February 18, 2007, 08:02:28 PM »
Final verdict: John Vito & Jill ELIMINATED
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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #504 on: February 18, 2007, 08:14:35 PM »
i liked john vito and jill and they were the first to be eliminated..why is it that the teams i like always get eliminated..except for t and j in season ten.


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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #505 on: February 18, 2007, 08:22:56 PM »


Final verdict: John Vito & Jill ELIMINATED
Hell YEAH  :jumpy: and Romber first place  :wohoo:

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #506 on: February 18, 2007, 08:25:33 PM »
 :barf  (Romber #1)

 :'(    (for poor JVJ)
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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #507 on: February 18, 2007, 08:26:44 PM »
Are they going to show 60 minutes?  :knuckles: :meow:
Good news is Canadians can't spoil TAR for us tonight because they get the Oscars and can't watch ARAS untill Monday night :neener: for once to them.

pssssssst thats next week
OOPS! Oh OK Kogs  :-[ :angel:! Sorry I was watching FOX all day and has no idea what was going on in the rest of TV Land  :lol:

thats what happenes when you watch FOX all day  :lol: :lol: :angel:

Just so you know I live in Canada and I watched it on time  :neener: lol
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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #508 on: February 18, 2007, 08:44:11 PM »
wow I didn't know john and jill be the first one to go

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #509 on: February 18, 2007, 08:50:44 PM »
I found these 4 things surprising in epsiode 1:

1. All AR11 teams were funneled onto either AA931 or COPA 301/211. Nobody was allowed to be placed on AA967 which also arrived before COPA.

2. Uchenna learned nothing about driving less cautiously from his San Juan experience. His driving to Hacienda Yanahurco was totally conservative. I had expected that he would have corrected that weakness from AR7, but he didn't.

3. Eric is an extremely aggressive driver and made up a lot of time taking some risks. I expect to see that several times more during other episodes of AR11.

4. The first place prize was not the expected $20,000 but instead just a trip. This tells me that either appearance money or significantly improved final placement bonuses are going to be awarded to all teams.

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #510 on: February 18, 2007, 09:11:00 PM »
Thank God there were no eating challenges tonight.   :lol:
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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #511 on: February 18, 2007, 09:21:16 PM »
Puddin, it looks like you have the correct dope afterall.  Or can we safely bet on the final three after you are lucky enough to be right about the first ep??

Looks like most of the teams learned their lesson about carrying big backpacks.  All except Kevin (or was that Drew) who looked like he was carrying everything including a kitchen sink on his back.  No way could that pack be carried on board a plane as fitting into the overhead or under the seat in front of you.  Most likely he would have to check that bag. 

The BQ's  were wearing matching blue longsleave shirts.  Jill was in gray.  Who was the blond in pink?  Danielle?

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #512 on: February 18, 2007, 09:34:00 PM »
I'll second that. Your source is looking solid. Congratulations!  :yourock:

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #513 on: February 19, 2007, 01:12:18 AM »
So the taxis outside of Pim's were just there to take racers to the garage. And the "very unpleasant" task (BVM) was working with horses? To each his own, I guess  :js:. I'm always a little suspicious of the editing when they only reveal the top of the route card, but until more info comes along we won't know about any tasks that were edited out. In particular, Phil says that teams must use provided maps to drive 65 miles to the ranch; but the map is only a city map (an "Old Quito Map" that didn't look that old  ;D).

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #514 on: February 19, 2007, 01:40:57 AM »
Yea, it will come out.  I've got shadows all over!   :knuckles:

They really cut out a lot of stuff from the show.  We have no clue which detour Kevin & Drew did.  At least I don't   :lol:
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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #515 on: February 19, 2007, 10:01:59 AM »
There are two aspects of AR11 episode 1 that have plagued recent races - begging and taxis hired to lead racers. Two of the CBS videos shed some light on this. In one, Rob and Amber tell a Chicago area couple in a bookstore in Miami airport that they have no money(can't be true; see what Charla and Mirna say below) and that they are in a race and cannot beg them for the money to buy this $35 book on Eduador that they need, but will the couple please buy it for them (which they do). We now that in Quito Rob and Amber pay a taxi to lead them to Cotopaxi National Park. We later learn that there is an entrance fee of $10 (not clear if per person or vehicle) to the park.

Charla and Mirna asked a local in Quito to guide them and when they saw how it was impacting him to do so (bus fare back, etc.) they gave him all their money. When they got to the park entrance they had none for the park entrance fee but a tourist bus was there at the same time so they begged for it.

Which is it? Did the producers change the rules to eliminate begging or not? If they did, where is the enforcement and penalties?

Either way, seeing the use of a taxi leading Rob and Amber to victory was totally pathetic. I only hope that a lack of money in leg 4 proves to be his undoing.

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #516 on: February 19, 2007, 08:27:05 PM »
There was definitely a skipped task after Pim's. 

Sadly, what they did was not a trip to Mitad.
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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #517 on: February 19, 2007, 08:40:12 PM »
Good find Chateau  :jumpy:

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #518 on: February 19, 2007, 09:17:48 PM »
Thanks Puddin.

Did anybody else see the awesome Venus-next-to-Moon tonight?

I was just looking at it.  It will be gone in about 10 min so if you are on the West coast, have a look.

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #519 on: February 21, 2007, 12:07:11 AM »
Fwiw, Phil's standup was at the Bank of America tower on southeast 2nd street.

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #520 on: February 22, 2007, 10:11:11 PM »
A poster Bread Baggage over at TWOP (who knows a lot more about horses than I do) also thinks there was something odd/wrong about the "wild horse" sequence.
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Feral horses wear their feet down fairly well. You won't see mustangs from roundups that have feet like those, nor as in appalling condition body-wise. For a horse to grow hooves like those seen last night, they aren't able to move around enough to do so. The one in particular that they showed having trouble walking was just horrendous and would have taken months of rehab to get healthy. Some of the horses they trimmed were younger, and the feet were not in as bad of shape. Hog-tying them and having someone with no knowledge of hoof anatomy just clipping away at them wasn't likely helping them much at all, possibly even harming them. I know they called them "wild", but something is up - the land they are kept on obviously cannot sustain them and their movement is somehow impeded so that they cannot move around enough to wear their hooves properly. I realize different cultures, different economics, different priorities, but, man - that was so difficult for me to watch. I had to turn away more than once.

As someone who has owned horses for 25 years and been involved in horse rescue for almost 10, the condition of the horses was absolutely appalling. Horses in that type of condition, if belonging to an individual, would be confiscated in this country. Not just their feet, they were horridly thin & malnourished as well as obviously infested with parasites. Their surroundings cannot sustain them nutritionally - everything I saw, except for the donkey (which has a much lower caloric need) body scored approximately a "2" on the Heineke scale - a scale from 1 (near death) to 10 (morbidly obese). A healthy horse will generally score about a 4.5-6. And cutting off their tails (no, they won't get stuck on rocks, etc.) was downright cruel as well. They need their tails to swish away flies and other blood sucking insects that like to make meals of horses. With no tail, they cannot protect themselves from them.

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #521 on: February 22, 2007, 10:32:48 PM »
 :'( Fernando is dead to me :hand:

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #522 on: February 22, 2007, 10:44:40 PM »
There are two aspects of AR11 episode 1 that have plagued recent races - begging and taxis hired to lead racers. Two of the CBS videos shed some light on this. In one, Rob and Amber tell a Chicago area couple in a bookstore in Miami airport that they have no money(can't be true; see what Charla and Mirna say below) and that they are in a race and cannot beg them for the money to buy this $35 book on Eduador that they need, but will the couple please buy it for them (which they do). We now that in Quito Rob and Amber pay a taxi to lead them to Cotopaxi National Park. We later learn that there is an entrance fee of $10 (not clear if per person or vehicle) to the park.

Charla and Mirna asked a local in Quito to guide them and when they saw how it was impacting him to do so (bus fare back, etc.) they gave him all their money. When they got to the park entrance they had none for the park entrance fee but a tourist bus was there at the same time so they begged for it.

Which is it? Did the producers change the rules to eliminate begging or not? If they did, where is the enforcement and penalties?

Either way, seeing the use of a taxi leading Rob and Amber to victory was totally pathetic. I only hope that a lack of money in leg 4 proves to be his undoing.

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Well, I think we can safely say that Rob mostly ikely did lie about not having money.  We have to assume that the 49.00 they got for the leg was in their packet at the starting line (eric & Danielle say 49 at the Pit stop on camera insider clips, JV & Jill say 48 months later in interviews, I would stick withte  recolection from later that day).  They needed taht money to be able to pay for cabs out of the airport.

But, it is possible that Rob & was telling the truth about a limitation of begging.

2 real possabilities.

1.  Not being allowed to beg in the US airports (In the past teams could, but it is possible that over the years this has changed). After all there is no beenfit for Rob not to just ask for money.  Teams can usually manage more tehn that if they push while begging.

2.  It might be that the limitation is for the whole race, that teams can beg, but they can't directly recieve money from locals.

Rob begged for him to buy him a book.  Still begging, but no money went into Rob's hands.

When Charla & Mirna begged for the 10 for the park entrance fee, it is possible that they did the same.  Had one of the people they were begging from (or a group) hold the money until enough was collected that a local could purchase the pass and give it to them.

So we will have to wait for more episodes to see if there is a general new rule limiting how teams can beg.

Personally I hope so.

The producers did say they were making it harder for teams to pay for escorts, that could certainly be one of the possible ways.

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #523 on: February 22, 2007, 11:15:01 PM »
I agree. I just watched the video and Rob says "we're not allowed to ask for money" and "we're not allowed to take money from you." My guess is that their instructions for the whole season were specifically worded in something resembling those quotes, so the sequence boils down to Rob at his specialty: bending (but not breaking) the rules.

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Re: EP1 Title: "I Told You Less Martinis And More Cardio."
« Reply #524 on: February 23, 2007, 01:43:03 AM »
Before the teams reach the park sign/farm bureau sign, you can see the cars pass a road sign. It's a little puzzling, since Machachi and Latacunga are both on the PanAm highway. The only guess I could offer that makes sense is that the PanAm is only a tangent to Machachi, and that the turnoff is right next to the city.

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