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EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« on: September 12, 2006, 02:25:24 PM »
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Episode Detail: Can Horses Smell Fear? - Amazing Race 10
On the second leg of the race, the teams must ride horses during a detour and one player goes into an emotional meltdown after being thrown. Several pairs are stranded when their vehicles break down in the countryside. Also, alliances begin to form between teams who consider themselves underdogs in the race. Phil Keoghan is the host.



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Re: EP 2 ( title to come )
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2006, 02:27:02 PM »
Mongolia ( Wednesday, 5/ 31 )


  From CBS Press Release,Mongolia PitStop
TAR detectives find the Hotel Mongolia ! located in
Gachuurt,Mongolia

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Twop's
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these people in Mongolia acted as Ferns for a team from Alabama:
Mongolia

Amazing Race
By Charlie
Wednesday, May 31 was cold and rainy in UB. Rachel and I went to the gym in the late morning and then enjoyed lunch at our favorite ex-pat watering hole.
As the lattes arrived, we saw a horde of alpha-humans charging through the courtyard of the monastery/museum across the street. Each team of two was followed by a cameraman and sound guy. The teams ran up to a temple, grabbed an envelope, tore it open, ran to a waiting jeep, loaded up and drove away.

Two young African-American women (Karlyn and Lynn from Alabama )  frantically interrogated the Mongolian bystanders. “Do you speak English? Do you speak English?”

“We need to get to Terelj. Where is it?”
“Can you show us?”
So we all piled in the Russian jeep and hit the road.
The instructions continued, saying that they should park their jeep in the village of Terelj, where they would meet some horses and a nomad who would help them with the horses.



Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia current date & Time

Ulan Bator, The Monastery of the Living Buddha ( thanks Chateau d if )

Possible destination that the post refered to:  Ref ( thanks Chateau d if )

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Re: EP 2 ( title to come )
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2006, 02:43:59 PM »
The Mongolian poster said they went to: Terelj

Looks like a great background for a pit stop.

This may be the same train thay took from China.
This indicates that they may have arrived at 1:30 pm.  I don't understand why teams would have been required to drive to the China Mongolia boarder.

Unless that was th only way to catch the train.   ;D

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I just noticed that according to that train post, the travel time from Beijing is 29 hours.   :o

But if they are riding only from Erlyan then, what?, 14 hours.   Map below from here.

The yellow arrows show cities served by Air China.  If that's an option.
Wow! You go away for a few hours and you miss all the fun. Let me try to add something. Markers for the first stop:
  • a cafe that serves latte
  • popular among ex-pats
  • Ethiopian owner
  • next door to "monastery/museum"

This site describes Millie's Espresso as being "popular among expats." This site (towards the bottom of the page) mentions Millie, the Ethiopian-American owner. And this site states that the restaurant is near the Chojin Lama museum (former monastery). So I'll go out on a limb and call Chojin Lama (haven't found a home page for it yet).
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Alternatively, take local trains from Beijing to the Mongolian border, cross by bus, and continue to Ulaanbaatar on local trains.
Another article that suggests (last paragraph) that there's no straight-through train service.
The GE stuff is interesting. If you look at the northern suburbs you can see the difference between the ger-city and the Western/Soviet city. I tried using GE to find Terelj, but it's in the fuzzylands; generally, it's north of Nalayh and east of UB.
I agree with the others that the drive to the border (if the poster heard the account correctly) is a bit puzzling. Here's a newspaper story of the 33-hour train trip: the border delay occurs when they switch the undercarriage. And here's a webshot of a ticket for train 23. And I checked the Miat 2006 schedule for PEK-ULN: it's sparse, but there are flights available (none on Tuesday).

Don't think that there is an actual pit stop in China; but most first two-hour eps have various tasks and lots of traveling.  So if we follow your schedule with teams leaving Seattle on May 28, then after they arrive in Beijing and clear customs at 11:30PM they may have to find cars/taxies and proceed to someplace between Beijing and Erlyan.  Perhaps the Great Wall. But the teams have to bed down for the night to wait for opening "hours of operation" let's say 8:30AM.  They do the task.  Clue tells them to drive/take taxi to Erlyan and find train station and book train to Ulan Bator.  Since train leaves at 10:30PM  this gives them plenty of time to walk the wall and  to do tasks, find clue and drive on to Erlyan.

Just some possibilities.  So the first elimination is at the pit stop in or around Ulan Bator (Terelj).

By the way, just in case anyone really cares, the name of the desert is just Gobi.  Gobi means desert in Mongolian, so it is redundant to say Gobi Desert.

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Re: EP 2 ( title to come )
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2006, 08:22:50 PM »
Now, it looks like there will be a first pitstop in China.  Only a 90 minute show instead of the usual two hour episode, so not that much time to introduce the 12 teams and  to travel and do the tasks we know about in China: Roadblock of the nasty eating variety (a first to have a roadblock in the first ep and to have the ugly eating deal so early); and tasks at the Forbidden City and on the Great Wall.

And we now know for sure that Lauren and her partner are not eliminated in the first leg! But that still leaves eleven others!

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Re: EP 2 ( title to come )
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2006, 12:45:14 AM »
This is a Google Earth view of the Monastery that the teams were seen going to.  It's next to the Ex-Pat cafe that Slowhatch figured out.  (this shot was put up earlier so it's not new news).

And the ground view.

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Re: EP 2 Can Horses Smell Fear?
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2006, 09:24:51 AM »
Episode 2 title

Can Horses Smell Fear?

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Re: EP 2 ( title to come )
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2006, 10:02:21 AM »
Yes!

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2006, 10:31:56 AM »
Thanks Kogs  :horsey:

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2006, 10:36:38 AM »
your velcome  :waves:

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2006, 01:15:47 PM »
Horses are pretty central to Mongolian culture now...

From PBS:
"Today, Mongolia continues its love affair with the horse. Nearly 40% of its 2.4 million people are still nomadic herders"

and historically...

From Wikipedia:
"The Mongolian horse (mongolian Мор, mor) is the favourite animal of the Mongols, and not only because Genghis Khan conquered half the world with its help."

Maybe a herding task? This seems to be a common use for horses in the nomadic culture...


Or a racing task? Beat a certain time?


Or maybe if we're lucky, a horse milking task? Fill a bucket to a certain line, ala Double Dare...


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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2006, 01:51:59 PM »
The instructions continued, saying that they should park their jeep in the village of Terelj, where they would meet some horses and a nomad who would help them with the horses. <<Charlies blog
A herding task and the flaming arrows are ? I guess we wait for Sunday for the previews ,

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2006, 02:02:53 PM »
Shoot. I had my heart set on horse-milking.

Flaming arrow possibilities...

From Korean blog:
"On our final night in Baiangol, we had a campfire. What began with a brilliant display of fireworks, eventually grew into a large fire as the Mongolian members lit the firewood with flaming arrows."

Another:
"we see the Mongol use of flaming arrows by night and whistling arrows by day to signal commands."

Genghis Khan bio:
"at the conquest of Samarkand in Uzbekistan, for example, (there were) somewhere around 80,000 heavy cavalry, Genghis' dark horde, with hundreds of thousands of light cavalry archers shooting flaming arrows."

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2006, 10:08:04 AM »
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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2006, 04:41:54 PM »
I just noticed but there is a fire extinguisher at each archer's spot. Could this thing be that dangerous?

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2006, 05:45:06 PM »
 :lol3:  Gingerman...they are giving "flaming arrows" to "mactors" and "beauty pageant contestants".  I'd say that's a recipe for disaster.    :o

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2006, 08:06:35 PM »
Since Mongolia looks like Ep2 now, I'll post the confessional cap from the video here. That looks like Hotel Mongolia in the background.

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2006, 05:19:02 PM »


This tourist traveled from Beijing to Ulaan Baatar, Mongolia by train. It's about 30 hours.
http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog-entries/technotrekker/overland05/1135151400/tpod.html

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2006, 07:52:48 PM »
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Gingerman...they are giving "flaming arrows" to "mactors" and "beauty pageant contestants".  I'd say that's a recipe for disaster.

I'm sure the mactors could probably do way better then people like Lyn/Karlyn or David/Mary.

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2006, 02:07:31 AM »
reminder: AOL might upload the preview of this episode about an hour early before airing the first episode.

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2006, 01:56:04 PM »
reminder: AOL might upload the preview of this episode about an hour early before airing the first episode.

URL from Slowhatch ..maybe we can fart around with the codes ?

http://wms.stream.aol.com/aol/us/aoltelevision/2006/cbs/amazingrace/amazingrace_season10_preview_700.wmv


 

 


 

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2006, 09:11:19 PM »
edited to correct a few things thanks banzai !

Phil Voice: Next week on the Amazing Race .
Tempers flare between Rob & Kimberly
Kim: shutup!
Rob: no , you shutup!
*Rob in the back of the buckboard Kim leading *
Rob: arrghh!
Kim: OK ! let me get through this !
Phil: horses have their own plans for some teams
**Dustin & Kandice riding  Black & brown horses . look Happy ! **
**Kim ? red jacket on a white horse ..gets knocked off of the horse by a tree limb.**
Voice: OhMyGawd! Oh noo ! Ow Ow
** someone Dustin or Kandy, , foot caught in the saddle stir-up being dragged by the horse**
Phil: and its a beast that maybe Peter & Sarah's downfall
Peter: its got a fire inside its eyes
** run away Ox with buckboard , Tyler & James also in these shots **
Peter: oh man , were done
Sarah : wahhh
** Peter standing with 2 jugs in hand looking on **
** Sarah crying , standing with 2 jugs in hand looking on **






























Whos being dragged ? Dustin or Kandy ? one of them check out the clothes

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2006, 09:27:52 PM »
Haven't seen the promo yet, but my guess is they're transporting ayrag. Here's a picture (source) of guys selling milk in UB using the same kind of containers.

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2006, 01:33:21 AM »
check out the confession of Tyler/James. The background is somewhere else and the clothings are different from the premiere.

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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2006, 01:40:31 AM »
I think I snagged it ^^


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Re: EP2 : "Can Horses Smell Fear?"
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2006, 10:51:24 AM »
CBSClues ~
Two Racers are left in an emotional tailspin when they're thrown from their horses on the way to the Detour .
Several teams are left stranded on the side of the road after their vehicles break down in the countryside.
An alliance is formed when five teams realize they are underdogs.

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